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Old 03-01-2009, 04:36 PM
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The New World Order

I remember how war in Iraq helped unify nations for the NWO supposedly in the words of Herbert Bush.

Now are we not seeing the same thing with the economy? You have to wonder if the conspiracy theorists were not off when they asserted that there is a global conspiracy to reshape the world through crisis and chaos.
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British Prime Minister Gordon Brown hopes to forge a "global new deal" with President Obama to rescue the world's economy when he makes his first visit to the White House since Obama's inauguration.


The Times of London reports Brown, who arrives Tuesday, will reportedly introduce a plan requiring massive spending on a worldwide scale.


Brown's 21st century deal calls for "universal action to prevent the crisis spreading" and "action to kick-start lending so that families and businesses can borrow again." It also requires "reform of international regulation to close regulatory gaps" and "the creation of an international early warning system."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...orlds-economy/
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Old 03-01-2009, 04:49 PM
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Welcome to the newly enlightened, Prax!
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Prax, below is an article I wrote a couple years ago. I think you will especially find the quotes in the beginning interesting. I am not a conspiracy theory junkie, but there is a conspiracy !!






THE NEW CHURCH ORDER VS THE NEW WORLD ORDER


“In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
- Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, Time Magazine, July 20th, l992

"It is the system of nationalist individualism that has to go....We are living in the end of the sovereign states....In the great struggle to evoke a Westernized World Socialism, contemporary governments may vanish....Countless people...will hate the new world order....and will die protesting against it." - H.G. Wells, “The New World Order”, 1940

“We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years... It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller, Bilderberg Meeting, June 1991 Baden, Germany

“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." David Rockefeller

None of these statements should be particularly shocking to the student of scripture. The Book of Revelation tells us there will be a one world government. Supporting this one world government will be a one world church whose sole object of adoration will be the man at the head of that government (namely the Anti-Christ). Neither is there anything “new” about this goal, nor its underlying philosophy of Humanism. A brief but perhaps oversimplified definition of the term Humanism is “The rejection of religion in favor of a belief in the advancement of humanity by its own efforts.” This system of thought attaches prime importance to human rather than divine or supernatural matters. Most historians date this worldview back to around 500 BC in Eastern school of Confucianism and also in sixth century BC in the Western (Greek) philosophy. Adherents of the Greek rationalist school of thought include luminaries such as Democritus (the father of atomic theory) and Pythagoras (author of the Pythagorean theory, a cornerstone of modern math). However, the philosophy actually goes back much farther.

Shortly into the antediluvian period (approximately 3,000 BC) there arose a world leader named Nimrod (it is believed his name comes from a verb meaning “let us revolt”). He founded several cities, among them Nineveh and Babel. It was at Babel that mankind gathered for the purpose of building a great city and a great tower. The purpose of the tower was to glorify man, and this was at a time when the entire world was of one language. It was at Babel the Bible says God created confusion by giving them different languages and they were scattered throughout the world.

Mankind still has an inherent need to gather, form, and dwell in great communities. This craving has reached the place where the United Nations state that by the year 2008 over half of the world’s population will dwell in large cities (for the first time in human history!). There is nothing inherently evil with dwelling in large cities. It is even God’s final intention to build a city for man. Also, even in the Old Testament Abraham was searching for a city whose builder and maker was God. However, man’s cities cater to the sensual. They are places where the soul can find art and music, and where businesses supply every craving of the body. But as opposed to body and soul, the craving for the tower was spiritual.

The tower was to be built with the intent “let us make a name for ourselves”. This is the central theme and spirit of Humanism: “Glory to Mankind, for Man is the measure of all things”. Within the heart of Man there still exists the desire to recreate a modern version of Babel. This will be in the form of a utopian, one world system, where man is glorified, and whose main “weapon” will be absolute control of the world economy.

It should also be noted that technology has finally caught up with prophecy. A one world cashless global economy is not only possible, but now pragmatic. Computers exist which can number every individual human, and track every single transaction in the world. It will also be very easy to deny participation in this world economy to individuals who do not totally share the worldview of its leaders. As far as the New World Order creating this one world government and one world economy the Bible says that it will be successful, albeit but for a short time. A crisis will come as Rockefeller stated above, be it an economic apocalypse, biological terror, or other real or manufactured “catastrophe” and the New World Order will be embraced.

The doctrine of the New Church Order is by comparison relatively young, a mere two thousand years. Paul explained it in Hebrews Chapter Seven. There he expounded on a new order of priesthood, that of Melchizedek, which supersedes the Levitical priesthood. Paul taught that Jesus, even though he came from the kingly tribe of Judah, was THE High Priest of this new order. And taught that the Levites (through Abraham) even paid tithes to this order. Paul’s main thrust however was to point out the death of rote and ritual as a means to come into the presence of God. (Each believer is part of that royal priesthood, through Christ the High Priest of this order, and the King of Kings). Succinctly stated, grace and power replaced legalistic ritual.

While most would not consider H.G. Wells to be a particularly spiritual prophet his quote above regarding the New World Order will hold true: “countless people will die opposing it”. While we recognize there are many giftings, and even understandings within our fellowship there are some basic tenets that are immutable, and shall not be compromised even at the price of martyrdom.

Among these tenets: There is only One God, the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Mankind is born into sin and thus doomed to be eternally separated from the Holy God. The only hope of reconciliation is through the recognition of the blood of Jesus Christ as propitiation for sin, and acceptance of Christ’s total Lordship in every area of life. These are among the tenets of faith which place the true Christian in direct opposition to the ecumenical philosophy permeating our world, which teaches that all religions are equal, like spokes of a wheel and any path leading one “to be a better person” is equally valid. For the New World Order to be established all who sincerely hold these Christian dogmas will have to be “converted” or eliminated.

It is the world-wide religious status quo which will acquiesce to the New World Order (those who have a form of godliness but deny the power, thereof.) In North America especially, the norm is to number those who believe in a Judeo-Christian ethic (in other words nominal Christians i.e. I am basically a “good person”) as being the same as true Christ followers (blood washed, spirit filled, striving to conform to the image of Christ). The difference between the two is as marked as that between the new order priesthood of Melchizedek and the old order priesthood of Levi. The literal end of time as we know it is near and the “new order” is being raised and empowered to gather the final harvest before the end of the Grace Dispensation.

God is calling for a complete restoration of New Testament miracles, signs, wonders and the five fold ministry. Whether you choose to be part of the fellowship literally known as the New Church Order, remain independent, or work within the structure of a denomination is not paramount, becoming a harvester of souls is. There is no middle ground, neutrality is not an option. It will neither be granted by Christ nor Anti-Christ. The time approaches to choose allegiance: either with the coming New World Order or those of the “New Church Order”.
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Old 03-01-2009, 04:58 PM
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True dat.

As I recall you posted an excellent multi-part video on the topic Ron
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BTW I wojld not say newly enlightened. I've had this view for years. I just shy away from the people that believe in the CIA's mind ray, black helicopters etc etc
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What arrogance. The intellectual elite has to be the filthy rich or the socialistic politicians? That is preferable than self government? Having THEM run OUR lives? That is what bothers me the most
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Using the words of the Great Ray Stevens....


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The New World Order marches on.

Even the African nations are looking to unify in a big way, similar to how the European Union has done it. I was just reading some articles on this yesterday.

Such regional governments are just one more step toward eventual world government.
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On Feb. 5 the 12 Annual African Union Summit in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, the Libyan president, Col Gaddafi, introduced his vision of the “United States of Africa” to the African Union.

The proposal calls for all African counties within the Union to use a single currency, passport, and army. Also, the most interesting notion: all 52 African countries would be under one government.
http://thesnapper.com/2009/02/25/wil...come-together/
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The spectre of a United States of Africa is once again stalking the continent.
http://www.independent.co.ug/index.p...ates-of-africa
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Article:Leaders strike consensus to form United States of Africa

...The African leaders agreed to disband the African Union Commission and create a more powerful African Union Authority to act as a temporary Union Government, as efforts are made to create a sovereign United States of Africa.
http://en.afrik.com/article15242.html
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The New World Order marches on.

Even the African nations are looking to unify in a big way, similar to how the European Union has done it. I was just reading some articles on this yesterday.

Such regional governments are just one more step toward eventual world government.
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On Feb. 5 the 12 Annual African Union Summit in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, the Libyan president, Col Gaddafi, introduced his vision of the “United States of Africa” to the African Union.

The proposal calls for all African counties within the Union to use a single currency, passport, and army. Also, the most interesting notion: all 52 African countries would be under one government.
http://thesnapper.com/2009/02/25/wil...come-together/
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The spectre of a United States of Africa is once again stalking the continent.
http://www.independent.co.ug/index.p...ates-of-africa
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Article:Leaders strike consensus to form United States of Africa

...The African leaders agreed to disband the African Union Commission and create a more powerful African Union Authority to act as a temporary Union Government, as efforts are made to create a sovereign United States of Africa.
http://en.afrik.com/article15242.html
TR,

Interesting point about Africa. If there is a unification then it would be Moslem in religion. That makes it interesting to see how Christian people would react.
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Take a dollar bill out of your pocket - turn it over and squint at what you see.



NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM - Latin for "A New Order of the Ages" or "A New World Order."

Just a Sir Isaac Newton and Copernicus had given us a new order of the Heavens, so also, it was our Founding Fathers' belief, did the American Revolution give us a "New Order" for world here below.

No longer would the freedoms of men be in peril to the whims and fancies of an autocrat. No longer would our God-give inalienable rights be trampled beneath the boot heel of the armies of some foreign empire. We were to be a free nation of free men!

So also, was the ideal of President George H.W. Bush back in 1992 when the forces of free nations (and a couple of kingdoms, and a few "strongmen" thrown in as well) allied to liberate the free autocrat, the Emir of Kuwait so that he could pursue his Islamist policy of banning thongs from the "non-European" Only beaches in the Gulf.

Okay, so it wasn't a neat and tidy dream; but it was a dream nonetheless. The only downside has been the misappropriation of a nifty slogan by a bunch of paranoids with too much time to spend on their keyboards and too little medication. And the thongs persist also... but I have a point to make here...

No, no one other than myself mentioned "Bible Prophecy" and "Dispensationalism" until just now - but that just goes to show how deeply ingrained this wrong headed misanthropic thing has settled into your cavernous craniums. The lees of John Nelson Darby have so corrupted your thinking that until just now you thought it it was Charles Nelson Darby!



C'mon guys! Get in the game! We need you thinking clearly for the battles ahead.
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