Obama hurts christains again

areyourucky · #1 02-27-2009, 09:00 PM

Christain nonprofit groups are in an uproar over the Obama administration’s proposal to limit the value of deductions for charitable gifts, which was included in the budget the president presented to Congress. Now even God is going to get jipped by the IRS.
This is Obamas way to crush christian movment.
Lets here from some Obama christians help explain this away.
With taking way tax deductions of giving, this hurts all the poor and hurting that Obama says he's for.
Just like always dumbacrats always promise social parasites everything, with money from hard working people, with a job.

Jermyn Davidson · #2 02-28-2009, 08:18 AM

God will never be "jipped" by the IRS.

Neither will those who give because God rewards faithfulness, not the IRS.

franklyn4 · #3 02-28-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by areyourucky

Christain nonprofit groups are in an uproar over the Obama administration’s proposal to limit the value of deductions for charitable gifts, which was included in the budget the president presented to Congress. Now even God is going to get jipped by the IRS.
This is Obamas way to crush christian movment.
Lets here from some Obama christians help explain this away.
With taking way tax deductions of giving, this hurts all the poor and hurting that Obama says he's for.
Just like always dumbacrats always promise social parasites everything, with money from hard working people, with a job.

I think your going over board, over exaggerating and over reacting here. Somehow i dont think "limit[ing] the value of deductions for charitable gifts..." is going to crush the Christian movement. Geesh.

TJJJ · #4 02-28-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by franklyn4

I think your going over board, over exaggerating and over reacting here. Somehow i dont think "limit[ing] the value of deductions for charitable gifts..." is going to crush the Christian movement. Geesh.

I agree! It may hurt the pet projects of some assemblies but it will NEVER crush the movement. History has proven that persecution ALWAYS makes the TRUE Church grow!

Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Sam · #5 02-28-2009, 09:56 AM

Those who really want to give and help will continue to do so whether they get a tax deduction or not.

In a way, isn't allowing this deduction a promotion of religion (religious and charitable giving) by the government? Those who take this deduction pay less in taxes than those who do not.

Is giving because of the tax reduction that will be realized actually giving with the right motive?

"GL" · #6 02-28-2009, 02:03 PM

the gates of government will not prevail...

OnTheFritz · #7 02-28-2009, 02:47 PM

Oh good grief.

RandyWayne · #8 02-28-2009, 02:52 PM

This is another example of liberals having defined the issue. In this case, is is tax credits, or the ability to deduct expenses/giving.
In a perfect world (which is yet to come), there will be a flat tax whereby ALL money will be given without thought to how it will effect their taxes because there will be no special credits or deductions (other than basic 'expenses' for businesses).

Sam · #9 02-28-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by "GL"

the gates of government will not prevail...

The gates of government nor the gates of hades/death have not prevailed. There were times the Church went underground, there were times the Church picked up customs and doctrines of the world, there were times the Church compromised, but today in 2009 the Church is still triumphant. We've lost battles here and there but we know that we will win the war. For a dispensationalist like me, I see the return of Jesus in triumph in Revelation 19 and Zechariah 14 and believe that some day He and His people will rule this earth in righteousness. Others who see things differently see the Kingdom growing for 2000+ years until it fills the earth. But, however we see it, we know that in the end we win!!!!

Praxeas · #10 02-28-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by areyourucky

Christain nonprofit groups are in an uproar over the Obama administration’s proposal to limit the value of deductions for charitable gifts, which was included in the budget the president presented to Congress. Now even God is going to get jipped by the IRS.
This is Obamas way to crush christian movment.
Lets here from some Obama christians help explain this away.
With taking way tax deductions of giving, this hurts all the poor and hurting that Obama says he's for.
Just like always dumbacrats always promise social parasites everything, with money from hard working people, with a job.

That messes up more than the givers. This will hurt our society in a different way. Less giving to charities that help the poor. Right now too we have the highest jobless rate since whenever. Obama and crew are showing tons of money onto big business and banks like throwing a handful of bandaids on a festering wound.

Yet we already did a bailout that started under Bush and did it fix anything? Did it slow the downward spiral? No!

So how are they going to help the people that need help the most? They aren't. Who will fund the "soup kitchens"? Democrats? Obama out of his own pocket?