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12-08-2008, 02:41 PM
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Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
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12-08-2008, 02:42 PM
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Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
Relevant, or Authentic? 
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12-08-2008, 02:44 PM
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Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
I can't really tell by their web site.
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12-08-2008, 02:50 PM
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Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
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Originally Posted by bkstokes
I can't really tell by their web site.
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Really?
It is, and it isn't.
It's an Apostolic church, with UPC roots (Ready the statement of Faith, and the Pastor's Bio, not sure if it is still UPC).
And it is one that is definintely taking a step in the right direction, IMO.
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12-08-2008, 02:51 PM
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Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
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Really?
It is, and it isn't.
It's an Apostolic church, with UPC roots (Ready the statement of Faith, and the Pastor's Bio, not sure if it is still UPC).
And it is one that is definintely taking a step in the right direction, IMO.
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WF is still UPC, isn't he?
Baptismal statement seems pretty traditional. Salvaton and HG statement ????
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12-08-2008, 02:57 PM
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Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
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WF is still UPC, isn't he?
Baptismal statement seems pretty traditional. Salvaton and HG statement ????
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I checked on the UPCI church locator, and no pastor by that name was listed.
You are right about the salvation and HG statement. Just reading it, I would classify it as your standard one-steppers. However, the "We believe that the remission of sins occurs through water baptism by immersion in the name of Jesus Christ." definitively counters that.
I guess that makes them two-steppers? As they don't state that the HG is a necessity, just that it is available to all.
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12-08-2008, 03:00 PM
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Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
This is a new church plant ... it would not be on the locator right away.
WF was/is part of the Youth Division ... he's gone back home to NY.
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12-08-2008, 03:03 PM
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Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
WF is still with the UPCI. If by "relevant" you mean a church that will try to express Christ in a modern way...then I think yes. If you mean "relevant" as in...all roads lead to heaven....then no.
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12-08-2008, 03:05 PM
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Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
WF is preaching the UPC SoCal youth conference Jan 1-3,2009
UPCI website -
http://www.pentecostalyouth.org/staff.asp
Director of Promotion
Wayne Francis
wfrancis@upci.org
314-837-7300 x264
Wayne has been involved in student ministry for over ten years serving as Assistant Youth Pastor, NY Metro District Youth President, and Dean of Students/Campus Pastor at Indiana Bible College. He graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree in Theology from Indiana Bible College and later earned a Bachelor of Science degree in Business Management from Indiana Wesleyan University. He and his gorgeous wife Claudene a.k.a. “Classy” and his two princesses Haleigh (4) and Ryleigh (2) live in St. Louis, MO.
Wayne loves hanging with his friends particularly when shopping, talking and texting on his cell phone, meeting new people and building new friendships, traveling and ad libbing to any music that he hears. His favorite drink is Strawberry Lemonade from Red Robin or the Cheesecake Factory. Though he’s been living in the Midwest for a while, he still keeps a New York state or mind.
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12-08-2008, 03:56 PM
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Re: Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?
Dan,
The first thing you don't do when you first meet someone for the first time to witness to is craming tongues and doctrine down their throat. I think even conservatives would agree with that and I think the same thing applies with the website approach. The Website for some, is more of an advertisement of their church.
To imply that that he is a one stepper because of his website is a stretch
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