Who is the puppet-master?

[Newman]

Although I barely post anymore; I read on occasion so I wanted to share this website with those who might be interested.

The most important section is down at the bottom where the latest news is posted each day.

I tend to be a critical reader and like to see statements supported by credible facts or analysis that would tend to lend itself to the proposition asserted.

I find this site to be very careful to show where the basis of the assertions are coming from. This is scary stuff.

Of special interest....

A. It appears that there are now two lawsuits out there asking for Obama to prove his citizenship. He could make the whole thing go away in a heart beat by doing so; but instead seeks to have the case thrown out on technicality. Why? And why doesn't the media bother to inform its readers? Goodness! We are informed of all other kinds of lawsuits...

B. There seems to be a fairly convincing argument out there that Obama didn't write his first book alone, but instead Ayers worked with him. Of course we haven't heard about that from the media either.

Funny, how the media can shine a bright spotlight on the Palin household for the past 20 years and disect Joe the Plumber of recent fame; but fail to point out what Obama with the slimmest of resumes can't or won't do...

1. Produce a certified birth certificate
2. Produce his school records from Columbia
3. Produce his school records from Harvard


Why? Perhaps because the world might know that he is but a puppet upon the world stage. The issue then becomes just which of his many sinister associates is the mastermind pulling the strings.

Btw- I am not buying everything on the website such as the latest story about his wife trying to intimidate an African media group. It is hard to believe that one could be so reckless and needs greater verification then what is currently available.

Nevertheless, the website is worth looking at. www.theobamafile.com

[Ron]

Can we put you down as a "Yes" vote for Obama?

[Jermyn Davidson]

A copy of Sen. Obama's birth certificate:

http://www.politifact.com/media/img/...hCertObama.jpg



An article about all the speculation by the St. Petersburg Times:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...icate-part-ii/



His school records from Harvard and Columbia????

He was the 1st Black president of the Harvard Law Review, discussed here:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11257.html


His time at Columbia is referenced here by the Columbia Univ newspaper advertising an event where Senators McCain and Obama appeared together:

http://www.columbiaspectator.com/node/55370




Long and short of it, Newman, the website you read from is not unbiased and is just trying to spread lies about Sen. Obama.

If they don't agree with his politics, so be it.

But all the lying that people on the "Right" is doing is simply DISGUSTING!

[Sister Alvear]

Thanks...and I hope he does not win...May the Lord help us if he does...

[Sister Alvear]

not that McCain is much better but at least he fought for our country. I wonder if Obama would do the same?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

not that McCain is much better but at least he fought for our country. I wonder if Obama would do the same?

I wonder when the surrogates for Sen. McCain will stop spreading their baseless lies?

[Newman]

Originally Posted by 1399

A copy of Sen. Obama's birth certificate:

http://www.politifact.com/media/img/...hCertObama.jpg

.......

Long and short of it, Newman, the website you read from is not unbiased and is just trying to spread lies about Sen. Obama.

If they don't agree with his politics, so be it.

But all the lying that people on the "Right" is doing is simply DISGUSTING!

1399- Ha! Of course its biased! But I look to the reasons that conclusions are drawn and I find alot of credible info and missing information about Obama.

1. The first website you point out does not show Obama's birth certificate but rather a Certification of Birth. It is the alleged short-hand version of a document that would show the hospital he was born at and include a doctor's signature, etc.

2. It appears that two certified forensic experts believe that it is a forged document; with a woman's name removed (his half sister) and his name inserted. I have read their analysis and find them convincing although I am certainly not an expert in the field!

BUT it continues to beg the question- WHERE IS OBAMA'S ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE? And why doesn't he just produce it and end the speculation?

[Newman]

Originally Posted by 1399

A copy of Sen. Obama's birth certificate:

http://www.politifact.com/media/img/...hCertObama.jpg



An article about all the speculation by the St. Petersburg Times:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...icate-part-ii/

The St. Petersburg Times article is a hoot! They email a copy of a certification of birth to a Hawaii official and ask if its real. She only says that the image looks authentic.

She doesn't go to the vault and see if it is what it purports to be. She is not a forensic expert. She does not have the actual document in her hands. How conclusive could this be in a multi- multi- million dollar race for president?

But once again; the issue begs the question.... Why doesn't Obama just end the speculation and produce his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE; the one with the hospital name and doctor signature on it? Why indeed?

[Jermyn Davidson]

When the birth certificate arrived from the Obama campaign it confirmed his name as the other documents already showed it. Still, we took an extra step: We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real.

“It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,” spokesman Janice Okubo told us.


The above quote is from the article I ref'd. People outside of Sen. Obama's camp have seen and verify that they have seen his birth certificate.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Did my links concerning Sen. Obama put to rest in your mind the speculation concerning Sen. Obama's attendance and graduation from Columbia and Harvard?