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Old 03-29-2007, 02:42 PM
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Do you obey all of Pauls writings?

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1 Timothy 5
1Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;

2The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.

3Honour widows that are widows indeed.

4But if any widow have children or nephews, let them learn first to shew piety at home, and to requite their parents: for that is good and acceptable before God.

5Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, trusteth in God, and continueth in supplications and prayers night and day.

6But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth.

7And these things give in charge, that they may be blameless.

8But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

9Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man.


10Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints' feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work.

11But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;

12Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.


13And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.

14I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.

15For some are already turned aside after Satan.

16If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed.

17Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

18For the scripture saith, thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.

19Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.

20Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

21I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

22Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure.

23Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.


24Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.

25Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.
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Old 03-29-2007, 02:44 PM
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Coop, no matter how much you whine and complain I absolutely REFUSE to greet you with a kiss dude

Romans 16:16 (English Standard Version)

16Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the churches of Christ greet you
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Old 03-29-2007, 02:46 PM
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Coop, no matter how much you whine and complain I absolutely REFUSE to greet you with a kiss dude

Romans 16:16 (English Standard Version)

16Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the churches of Christ greet you
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Old 03-29-2007, 02:47 PM
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Coop, no matter how much you whine and complain I absolutely REFUSE to greet you with a kiss dude

Romans 16:16 (English Standard Version)

16Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the churches of Christ greet you
Hey, I would kiss Coop, beard and all.
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Old 03-29-2007, 02:48 PM
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Thessalonians 5:26 (English Standard Version)


26Greet all the brothers with a holy kiss.
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Why is Paul so hard on women????

Apostolics do not teach this today???? Do they???
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9Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man.

10Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints' feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work.

11But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;

12Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.
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Old 03-29-2007, 02:51 PM
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3Honor widows who are truly widows. 4But if a widow has children or grandchildren, let them first learn to show godliness to their own household and to make some return to their parents, for this is pleasing in the sight of God. 5She who is truly a widow, left all alone, has set her hope on God and continues in supplications and prayers night and day, 6but she who is self-indulgent is dead even while she lives. 7Command these things as well, so that they may be without reproach. 8But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
9Let a widow be enrolled if she is not less than sixty years of age, having been the wife of one husband,[a]



10and having a reputation for good works: if she has brought up children, has shown hospitality, has washed the feet of the saints, has cared for the afflicted, and has devoted herself to every good work.



11But refuse to enroll younger widows, for when their passions draw them away from Christ, they desire to marry



12and so incur condemnation for having abandoned their former faith.


13Besides that, they learn to be idlers, going about from house to house, and not only idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying what they should not.



14So I would have younger widows marry, bear children, manage their households, and give the adversary no occasion for slander. 15For some have already strayed after Satan.



16If any believing woman has relatives who are widows, let her care for them. Let the church not be burdened, so that it may care for those who are really widows.



coop what is Paul being hard here on?
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Old 03-29-2007, 03:04 PM
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coop what is Paul being hard here on?

I have never heard this term Enrolled.

But it's sounds like Paul is forbidding Old and young widows not to Re-Marry.

That if young widows desire companionship they have turned away from Jesus.

11But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;

12Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.
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I have never heard this term Enrolled.

But it's sounds like Paul is forbidding Old and young widows not to Re-Marry.

That if young widows desire companionship they have turned away from Jesus.

11But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;

12Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.
Nope...he is talking about being "enrolled" in service
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Old 03-29-2007, 03:08 PM
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Nope...he is talking about being "enrolled" in service
But why refuse a young widow????

Why are they damned?

11But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;

12Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.
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