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Old 09-16-2008, 12:04 PM
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What Is Biblical Prosperity ?

The elder to the beloved Gaius whom I love in truth.
Beloved I pray that all may go well with you and that you might be in good health,as it goes well with your soul.3 John.1,2 ESV

We hear much in the church world especially from so-called word of faith people about prosperity.
Of course we know God can bless people with finances,and material goods and Praise God for that.
But what is true Biblical prosperity,and what are your thoughts on the matter ?
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:22 PM
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I believe Paul in order to be a roman citizen had to have a very aristocratic family to be able to purchase a Roman citizenship. He was born a Roman. Very wealthy. He gave all this up up and his prestige to become a Christian.

Php 4:10 But I rejoiced in the Lord greatly, that now at the last your care of me hath flourished again; wherein ye were also careful, but ye lacked opportunity.
Php 4:11 Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.
Php 4:12 I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
Php 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

I believe this is the true prosperity. Material prosperity will be given to such as are able to handle it.

Act 22:27 Then the chief captain came, and said unto him, Tell me, art thou a Roman? He said, Yea.
Act 22:28 And the chief captain answered, With a great sum obtained I this freedom. And Paul said, But I was free born.
Act 22:29 Then straightway they departed from him which should have examined him: and the chief captain also was afraid, after he knew that he was a Roman, and because he had bound him.

Luk 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

Mat 25:14 For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods.
Mat 25:15 And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey.
Mat 25:20 And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more.
Mat 25:21 His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.

The biblical prosperity is using what god gives to you. As God sees you are able he will take away even from unprofitable servants and place that in your hand. To whom much is given ......

Mat 25:29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
Mat 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Pro 13:22 A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children: and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just.

Then there is the instruction on how to be productive and the blessing that comes from that. How is our spiritual and physical credit report. God surely won't bless your mess. Blessings to commensurate with testimony.

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The elder to the beloved Gaius whom I love in truth.
Beloved I pray that all may go well with you and that you might be in good health,as it goes well with your soul.3 John.1,2 ESV

We hear much in the church world especially from so-called word of faith people about prosperity.
Of course we know God can bless people with finances,and material goods and Praise God for that.
But what is true Biblical prosperity,and what are your thoughts on the matter ?

Jesus accomplished three things through His Suffering and Death,

He redeemed the whole world from sin,
He redeemed the whole world from sickness, disease, and death,
He redeemed the whole world from poverty.

You never need anything else, neither in this life, nor in the world to come.
It all came in the same package. You choose to receive all or part, it's up to you.

That's the GOSPEL of Jesus Christ.
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I wore my fake Rolex to church one Sunday, a guy saw it and was in awe that I had prospered...until I asked him if he wanted to trade watches...then I told him it was fake.

He cussed.
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God loves to bless His children. But I think He has to know you're at a place to handle it correctly if He does. You should always be a funnel, not a sponge.
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The elder to the beloved Gaius whom I love in truth.
Beloved I pray that all may go well with you and that you might be in good health,as it goes well with your soul.3 John.1,2 ESV

We hear much in the church world especially from so-called word of faith people about prosperity.
Of course we know God can bless people with finances,and material goods and Praise God for that.
But what is true Biblical prosperity,and what are your thoughts on the matter ?
Prosperity is a relative term and is determined by many factors, whether looking at the natural or biblical prosperity.

I live in California. Someone in Wyoming may think it is prosperous what a person in California might think is poverty simply because of the difference in cost of living.

From a biblical standpoint we are given based upon how we use what we have...the principle of stewardship. Deut 8:18 establishes that God has given us the power to get wealth so that we can build His Kingdom. Paul establishes that we can have all sufficiency in all things that we may abound to every good work.

If you look at the tithing and giving threads you will find a whole mess of people talking about their creative ideas of giving and pointing to everything the Bible says about giving as "under the law." Of course, they all have their stories about how they could never pay their bills too....Hmmm, go figure maybe their concept of God's laws are connected to their struggles.

They more your life is focused on God's purposes the more prosperity you will walk in. Not that prosperity is the focus, but it is definitely a by-product of walking with God (Matt 6:33).

I live what most people would call a prosperous life, however I don't view it that way because I don't own anything. Everything I have is God's therefore He can require it at anytime. But what I have found is that God is faithful and everything He has, I have access to. It's a really cool system when you get past your carnality.
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1Ti 6:5-8 KJV Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. (6) But godliness with contentment is great gain. (7) For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. (8) And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
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1Ti 6:5-8 KJV Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. (6) But godliness with contentment is great gain. (7) For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. (8) And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
THANK YOU, BRO. BLUME, FOR BRINGING THIS INTO PERSPECTIVE!

I truly believe that this world in which we live, and even the church, is so materialistic that the only way most people ever look at prosperity is based on financial and material things. But the Bible says that godliness with contentment is great gain!

God never told us He would bless us financially. I know people who have lived their entire lives for God, but struggle from one paycheck to the next to get by. Those are some people who have faith in their God to provide for them, and are continually in prayer. They are also the most giving people I know - whenever anyone is in need, they are the first to offer help. They give from their lack, believing and obeying the voice of God.

Truth is, most of us can no longer say, like Peter, "Silver and gold have I none." Unfortunately, neither can most any longer say "rise up and walk." Maybe that's exactly what Jesus was saying to the Laeodicean church, when He said "Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:" - Revelation 3.17.

I don't even know where to start looking for a "biblical" definition of "prosperity." I believe the concept was foreign to the first century church - they had everything common and distributed to whomever had a need. We horde unto ourselves.
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Beloved I pray that all may go well with you and that you might be in good health,as it goes well with your soul.3 John.1,2 ESV

We hear much in the church world especially from so-called word of faith people about prosperity.
Of course we know God can bless people with finances,and material goods and Praise God for that.
But what is true Biblical prosperity,and what are your thoughts on the matter ?
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