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Old 07-21-2008, 05:57 PM
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Tradition: Reflective of the Pentecostal Mindset?

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Is this video reflective of the Pentecostal Mindset?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRdfX7ut8gw
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Old 07-21-2008, 06:04 PM
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Re: Tradition: Reflective of the Pentecostal Minds

You may ask, "how did this tradition get started?"

I'll tell you.

I don't know.

But it's a tradition.


And because of our traditions every one of us knows who he is, and what God expects him to do
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Old 07-21-2008, 06:14 PM
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Re: Tradition: Reflective of the Pentecostal Minds

Gotta love "Fidder On the Roof"!
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Old 07-21-2008, 08:22 PM
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Re: Tradition: Reflective of the Pentecostal Minds

I saw fiddler on the roof a few years ago after having seen it as a youngster.

When I saw this discourse, my immediate thought was wow. I bet every OP preacher, pastor and leader had to have seen this at least once and...Don't they get it?

Also, you have to notice the rabbi's use of hebrew logic the same that Jesus used in many of his sermons and quotes. "A time is coming and now is..."

Tradition, tradition...gotta love it.
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Re: Tradition: Reflective of the Pentecostal Minds

Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 2 Thessalonians 2:15
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Old 07-21-2008, 08:30 PM
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Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 2 Thessalonians 2:15
Don't forget that scripture in Hezekiah where it says something about and thus bretheren, be ye not conformed to this world but be ye transformed by...TRADITION, TRADITION!!!

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Re: Tradition: Reflective of the Pentecostal Minds

Always loved the Fiddler on the Roof!


I can see some similarities ...

"...we have always had our special types..."Yenta - the matchmaker"

"Reb - the beggar", and "most important of all our Rabbi!"

"the fiddler"

So, who are our "special types"?
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2Th 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
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2Th 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
Just as not all the tradition of the Jews was the commandment of God neither is the traditions of the UPC the commandments of God nor the doctrine of the Apostles. We have to weed out the traditions of men from the commandments of God.

Thanks PP for the video.
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Just as not all the tradition of the Jews was the commandment of God neither is the traditions of the UPC the commandments of God nor the doctrine of the Apostles. We have to weed out the traditions of men from the commandments of God.

Thanks PP for the video.
Jesus knew that issues would come up after He was gone up from the world and told those who would be leaders of his church the following...

Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Mat 18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican.
Mat 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Mat 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

And we have a very practical example in Acts of an issue that came up that required Paul and Barnabbas to meet with the elders and Apostles at Jerusalem. Men discussed, made decisions, and put them in writing and it was communicated to all the gentle churches to be obeyed. What was to be obeyed? The decisions made by men. Now did God somehow indicate that He was pleased with the decisions made by men? Yes he did...

Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

Act 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well, Fare ye well.

Notice that more decisions were made than the one decision that they decided they needed to meet for - circumcision of the gentiles.

Its almost like some in here would have told Paul, Barnabbas, the elders, and the rest of the Apostles not to put something that was decided by men in writing to be communicated to all of the gentile churches to be obeyed; that if they did so they would be making a big mistake.

Perhaps they remembered the words of Jesus in Matt 18 and knew better than some of us.

2Th 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

Do you think the above scripture covers the decisions that men made above that were put in writing and communicated to all of the gentiles churches to obey?

I believe so.
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