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07-21-2008, 11:44 AM
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Saddleback to conduct McCain/Obama debate @ Church
Rick Warren's Saddleback Church in California will be the scene of an election forum next month involving both Barack Obama and John McCain.
In a press release, Warren says the August 16 event will be " an unprecedented opportunity for America to hear both men back-to-back on the same platform." Warren, who will be the only person allowed to question Obama and McCain during the two-hour event, says he will deal with issues that Americans care deeply about, including faith, values, character, and leadership. The press release from Warren did not indicate whether he would press the candidates on key matters of doctrine such as whether they believe Jesus is the only way of salvation. Obama, in particular, has made it clear that although he believes in Jesus, he does not believe that Jesus is the only way of salvation. Obama has also referred to Bible passages that speak of the sin of homosexuality as being outdated.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election20...aspx?id=186080
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07-21-2008, 11:48 AM
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Re: Saddleback to conduct McCain/Obama debate @ Ch
I wonder if Warren and Obama are going to do their rendition of Humpback Mountain for the Saddleback church?
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07-21-2008, 11:49 AM
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Re: Saddleback to conduct McCain/Obama debate @ Ch
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I wonder if Warren and Obama are going to do their rendition of Humpback Mountain for the Saddleback church?
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Explain exactly what you mean ??
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07-21-2008, 11:51 AM
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Re: Saddleback to conduct McCain/Obama debate @ Ch
I don't think ANY church should be getting into
politics to this degree.
Do any of you have a feeling that Warran is being a liberal???
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07-21-2008, 11:51 AM
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Re: Saddleback to conduct McCain/Obama debate @ Ch
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I wonder if Warren and Obama are going to do their rendition of Humpback Mountain for the Saddleback church?
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I believe you are confused with another church.
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07-21-2008, 11:54 AM
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Re: Saddleback to conduct McCain/Obama debate @ Ch
Warren and Obama both support gays ...Brokeback (Humpback) Mountain was about 2 gay cowboys.
I figured they were going to make their positions known.
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07-21-2008, 12:04 PM
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Re: Saddleback to conduct McCain/Obama debate @ Ch
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Warren and Obama both support gays ...Brokeback (Humpback) Mountain was about 2 gay cowboys.
I figured they were going to make their positions known.
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I wouldn't be surprised - Where did you hear that Warran
supports Gays?
I've noticed he's becoming more and more socially liberal
He'll fit right in with the typical Calif. mindset - gotta keep
that big membership happy
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07-21-2008, 12:09 PM
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Re: Saddleback to conduct McCain/Obama debate @ Ch
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Warren and Obama both support gays ...Brokeback (Humpback) Mountain was about 2 gay cowboys.
I figured they were going to make their positions known.
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Can you provide some support for the claim that Warren supports gays?
Oh, and while you're at it, I"m still waiting for the specifics on the "false doctrine" Tenney and Mangun embrace.
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07-21-2008, 12:14 PM
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Re: Saddleback to conduct McCain/Obama debate @ Ch
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Can you provide some support for the claim that Warren supports gays?
Oh, and while you're at it, I"m still waiting for the specifics on the "false doctrine" Tenney and Mangun embrace.
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I could but I won't. I prefer to provide educational opportunities to others. Go research yourself.
Concerning Mangun and Tenney...they are proponents of the light doctrine. Mangun would be nothing if it wasn't for him preaching his mommas sermons. Tenney is reprobate concerning the faith. Any man who needs a anti-one God endorsement from Oral Roberts and then writes a book with a reprobate son is a wondering star and twice dead plucked up by the roots!
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07-21-2008, 12:16 PM
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Re: Saddleback to conduct McCain/Obama debate @ Ch
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I could but I won't. I prefer to provide educational opportunities to others. Go research yourself.
Concerning Mangun and Tenney...they are proponents of the light doctrine. Mangun would be nothing if it wasn't for him preaching his mommas sermons. Tenney is reprobate concerning the faith. Any man who needs a anti-one God endorsement from Oral Roberts and then writes a book with a reprobate son is a wondering star and twice dead plucked up by the roots!
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Classic answers from someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. Lol, I'd love to see what would happen if you made an accusation against someone in a court of law, and when asked for your proof, you tell the judge, "Go research for yourself".
Next case?
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