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07-09-2008, 05:16 PM
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Where Was Samuel ?
And Samuel said to Saul,Why hast thou disquited me,to bring me up ? And Saul answered I am sore distressed;for the Phillistines to make war agains't me,and God is departed from me,and answereth no more,neither by prophets,nor by dreams,therefore I have called thee,that thou make known unto me what I shall do. 1.SAM.28:15
OK we know the familiar account how Saul contacted a woman from En-dor with a familiar spirit to contact Samuel see 1 Samuel 28.
My question is where was Samuel when he was contacted,what was he in sheol a place of departed spirits awaiting a resurrection,just where was Samuel resting ? Was he in soul sleep ?
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07-09-2008, 05:41 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
That wasn't Samuel. It was an evil spirit, who was familiar with him, when he was alive, masquerading as Samuel. The Witch of En-dor had a familiar spirit.
But to answer your question, "Where was Samuel?" He was in Abraham's Bosom. That's where the souls of dead people went, before Jesus' death and resurrection.
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07-09-2008, 07:23 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
Did you get this thought from a source or is it your own?
Bro Larry
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07-09-2008, 07:27 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
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Did you get this thought from a source or is it your own?
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I think he makes it up as he goes along. If you read the text, it clearly says Samuel was speaking to Saul.
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07-09-2008, 07:28 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
If this was the witches familiar spirit and not Samuel why did she react the way she did?
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07-09-2008, 07:37 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
I read the Samuels a couple of weeks ago. If I remember it correctly the spirit simply sums up previous messages that Samuel had given to Saul. I don't think the spirit changed the message any. It does not seem like a lying spirit to me.
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Mone me, amabo te, si erro
No real problem exists over the use of "The Name" in everthing else done in the Church. Why then should there exist great controversy over the use of the "The Name of the Godhead" in water baptism?
Kevin J. Conner The Name of God p. 92
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07-09-2008, 07:42 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
I believe he was in Abrahams bosum.
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07-09-2008, 07:43 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
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Originally Posted by bkstokes
I read the Samuels a couple of weeks ago. If I remember it correctly the spirit simply sums up previous messages that Samuel had given to Saul. I don't think the spirit changed the message any. It does not seem like a lying spirit to me.
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Wow. I finished up with the Samuels a couple of weeks ago myself. They were my first choice in studying the prophets. I didn't get too much of the kind of stuff I was looking for, but I certainly did gain some perspective on what made David so special in the eyes of God. It was all in his approach to God.
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07-09-2008, 08:00 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
And Samuel said to Saul,Why hast thou disquited me,to bring me up ? And Saul answered I am sore distressed;for the Phillistines to make war agains't me,and God is departed from me,and answereth no more,neither by prophets,nor by dreams,therefore I have called thee,that thou make known unto me what I shall do. 1.SAM.28:15
OK we know the familiar account how Saul contacted a woman from En-dor with a familiar spirit to contact Samuel see 1 Samuel 28.
My question is where was Samuel when he was contacted,what was he in sheol a place of departed spirits awaiting a resurrection,just where was Samuel resting ? Was he in soul sleep ?
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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07-09-2008, 08:14 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
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Originally Posted by bkstokes
Did you get this thought from a source or is it your own?
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I don't remember anyone in particular teaching that. Seems like I've always known it. It's just the way channelers and mediums operate.
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