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06-18-2008, 04:43 PM
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15 Steps-Changing from Traditional to NT Church
Changing From Traditional Church To Nt Church- 15 Essential Steps, Dr Victor Choudhri (India)
CHANGING FROM TRADITIONAL CHURCH TO NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH FIFTEEN ESSENTIAL STEPS
1. Replace professional clergy with Priesthood of all Believers with authority to baptize, break bread and equip fishers of men. ( 1 Peter 2:9)
2. Replace Church building with "House of Peace." ( Luke 10:5-9; Matt. 10:11-13)
3. Replace programmed Sunday service with daily informal gatherings. The Bride of Christ must have intimacy with her Lord every day and not just for a couple of hours a week lest she become unfaithful. ( Acts 2:46-47; Hebrew 3:13)
4. Replace tithing with sharing the enormous financial resources and goodwill available in Christian homes. ( Deut. 8:17-18; Acts 5:32-34)
5. Replace the "Crumb and Sip" Holy Communion with simple "Community meals" eaten together with gladness from house to house. ( Acts 2:46; 1 Cor 11:20-23)
6. Replace loud music with speaking to each other in psalms and spiritual songs making melody in your heart. ( Eph 5:19; Col 3:16)
7. Replace the spectator church to participatory, interactive, prophetic and Missionary sending church. ( 1 Cor 14:26-31; Acts 13:13)
8. Replace organizational and denominational churches with citywide network of house churches. ( Romans 16:3-15)
9. Replace barren church with multiplication. The Bride must not remain barren, but reproduce and fill the earth. ( Acts 1: 8; 1 Cor 9: 19-30)
10. Replace submitting to one man - by submitting to each other. We must encourage, comfort, exhort, edify and serve one another. ( Galatians 5: 13; Eph. 4: 2, 15)
11. Replace purposeless church with a goal oriented mandate to disciple nations. ( Romans 15: 20; Matt. 28: 19)
12. Replace powerless and fruitless church with militants who heal the sick, raise the dead, expel the demons, bind the ‘strongman’ and plunder his possessions. (Matt 11:12, 12:29)
13. Replace all presidents, directors, chairman, secretaries and all the other non-biblical titles with apostles, prophets, and the fivefold ministry gifted elders. Change from a dead organization to living organism. ( Eph 4:11; Titus 1:5-9)
14. Replace all Sunday schools, Bible schools, and prayer cells and cottage meetings and call them full-fledged churches. So that they can disciple, baptize, break bread, equip and send missionaries. ( 1 Cor 16:19; Col 4:15)
15. Replace all selfish goats who are members for hatching, matching and dispatching with sheep who take care of the hungry, thirsty, naked, strangers, sick and the prisoners. (Matt. 25:31-46)
Victor Choudhrie is a cancer surgeon by profession. He is a senior Fellow of the American and British colleges of surgeons. He quit his job as the Director (CEO) of the Christian Medical college, Ludhiana in Punjab, India in 1992 to take up full time Church planting ministry in central India. His wife Bindu is also in full time church planting ministry, equipping women to be house church leaders and trainers. God has blessed this ministry abundantly. Large numbers of grassroots level leaders have been trained who have planted thousands of house churches all over India as a result.
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06-18-2008, 04:44 PM
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Re: 15 Steps-Changing from Traditional to NT Churc
Do you agree with any of these??
None of these??
which ones and why ???
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06-18-2008, 04:49 PM
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Re: 15 Steps-Changing from Traditional to NT Churc
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Do you agree with any of these??
None of these??
which ones and why ???
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I gotta run, the kids are getting out from school at 3:00 will read and post later.
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06-18-2008, 04:52 PM
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Re: 15 Steps-Changing from Traditional to NT Churc
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06-18-2008, 05:05 PM
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Re: 15 Steps-Changing from Traditional to NT Churc
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I gotta run, the kids are getting out from school at 3:00 will read and post later.
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okay thanks Ron
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06-18-2008, 05:05 PM
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Re: 15 Steps-Changing from Traditional to NT Churc
[QUOTE=StMark;501206]Changing From Traditional Church To Nt Church- 15 Essential Steps, Dr Victor Choudhri (India)
CHANGING FROM TRADITIONAL CHURCH TO NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH FIFTEEN ESSENTIAL STEPS
1. Replace professional clergy with Priesthood of all Believers with authority to baptize, break bread and equip fishers of men. ( 1 Peter 2:9) no...too many chiefs
2. Replace Church building with "House of Peace." ( Luke 10:5-9; Matt. 10:11-13) essentially the same
3. Replace programmed Sunday service with daily informal gatherings. The Bride of Christ must have intimacy with her Lord every day and not just for a couple of hours a week lest she become unfaithful. ( Acts 2:46-47; Hebrew 3:13) not practical...that's what daily prayer is for
4. Replace tithing with sharing the enormous financial resources and goodwill available in Christian homes. ( Deut. 8:17-18; Acts 5:32-34) ??
5. Replace the "Crumb and Sip" Holy Communion with simple "Community meals" eaten together with gladness from house to house. ( Acts 2:46; 1 Cor 11:20-23) now that sounds fun!
6. Replace loud music with speaking to each other in psalms and spiritual songs making melody in your heart. ( Eph 5:19; Col 3:16) "shout unto the Lord with a voice of triumph..."
7. Replace the spectator church to participatory, interactive, prophetic and Missionary sending church. ( 1 Cor 14:26-31; Acts 13:13) we should all strive for such
8. Replace organizational and denominational churches with citywide network of house churches. ( Romans 16:3-15) wouldn't be very efficient
9. Replace barren church with multiplication. The Bride must not remain barren, but reproduce and fill the earth. ( Acts 1: 8; 1 Cor 9: 19-30) uh..yeah
10. Replace submitting to one man - by submitting to each other. We must encourage, comfort, exhort, edify and serve one another. ( Galatians 5: 13; Eph. 4: 2, 15) nope...we must have leaders in all areas of life
11. Replace purposeless church with a goal oriented mandate to disciple nations. ( Romans 15: 20; Matt. 28: 19) sure
12. Replace powerless and fruitless church with militants who heal the sick, raise the dead, expel the demons, bind the ‘strongman’ and plunder his possessions. (Matt 11:12, 12:29) surely
13. Replace all presidents, directors, chairman, secretaries and all the other non-biblical titles with apostles, prophets, and the fivefold ministry gifted elders. Change from a dead organization to living organism. ( Eph 4:11; Titus 1:5-9) great but who's gonna answer the phone if Sis. So-n-So is in Africa
14. Replace all Sunday schools, Bible schools, and prayer cells and cottage meetings and call them full-fledged churches. So that they can disciple, baptize, break bread, equip and send missionaries. ( 1 Cor 16:19; Col 4:15) u don't see too many kindergarteners baptizing these days
15. Replace all selfish goats who are members for hatching, matching and dispatching with sheep who take care of the hungry, thirsty, naked, strangers, sick and the prisoners. (Matt. 25:31-46) sure! but if all are in charge, who will do the goat picking?
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06-18-2008, 05:52 PM
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Re: 15 Steps-Changing from Traditional to NT Churc
The Church is not a social club or community center, and never was designed to be such. It's goal is salvation of the lost and maturing of the believers.
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06-18-2008, 05:54 PM
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Re: 15 Steps-Changing from Traditional to NT Churc
[QUOTE=SavedLou;501250]
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Originally Posted by StMark
Changing From Traditional Church To Nt Church- 15 Essential Steps, Dr Victor Choudhri (India)
CHANGING FROM TRADITIONAL CHURCH TO NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH FIFTEEN ESSENTIAL STEPS
1. Replace professional clergy with Priesthood of all Believers with authority to baptize, break bread and equip fishers of men. ( 1 Peter 2:9) no...too many chiefs
2. Replace Church building with "House of Peace." ( Luke 10:5-9; Matt. 10:11-13) essentially the same
3. Replace programmed Sunday service with daily informal gatherings. The Bride of Christ must have intimacy with her Lord every day and not just for a couple of hours a week lest she become unfaithful. ( Acts 2:46-47; Hebrew 3:13) not practical...that's what daily prayer is for
4. Replace tithing with sharing the enormous financial resources and goodwill available in Christian homes. ( Deut. 8:17-18; Acts 5:32-34) ??
5. Replace the "Crumb and Sip" Holy Communion with simple "Community meals" eaten together with gladness from house to house. ( Acts 2:46; 1 Cor 11:20-23) now that sounds fun!
6. Replace loud music with speaking to each other in psalms and spiritual songs making melody in your heart. ( Eph 5:19; Col 3:16) "shout unto the Lord with a voice of triumph..."
7. Replace the spectator church to participatory, interactive, prophetic and Missionary sending church. ( 1 Cor 14:26-31; Acts 13:13) we should all strive for such
8. Replace organizational and denominational churches with citywide network of house churches. ( Romans 16:3-15) wouldn't be very efficient
9. Replace barren church with multiplication. The Bride must not remain barren, but reproduce and fill the earth. ( Acts 1: 8; 1 Cor 9: 19-30) uh..yeah
10. Replace submitting to one man - by submitting to each other. We must encourage, comfort, exhort, edify and serve one another. ( Galatians 5: 13; Eph. 4: 2, 15) nope...we must have leaders in all areas of life
11. Replace purposeless church with a goal oriented mandate to disciple nations. ( Romans 15: 20; Matt. 28: 19) sure
12. Replace powerless and fruitless church with militants who heal the sick, raise the dead, expel the demons, bind the ‘strongman’ and plunder his possessions. (Matt 11:12, 12:29) surely
13. Replace all presidents, directors, chairman, secretaries and all the other non-biblical titles with apostles, prophets, and the fivefold ministry gifted elders. Change from a dead organization to living organism. ( Eph 4:11; Titus 1:5-9) great but who's gonna answer the phone if Sis. So-n-So is in Africa
14. Replace all Sunday schools, Bible schools, and prayer cells and cottage meetings and call them full-fledged churches. So that they can disciple, baptize, break bread, equip and send missionaries. ( 1 Cor 16:19; Col 4:15) u don't see too many kindergarteners baptizing these days
15. Replace all selfish goats who are members for hatching, matching and dispatching with sheep who take care of the hungry, thirsty, naked, strangers, sick and the prisoners. (Matt. 25:31-46) sure! but if all are in charge, who will do the goat picking? 
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TOTALLY agree with the above. House churches don't work in all areas IN or OUT of the country. PLUS, since I'm OLD....in MY particular case there was a lack of accountability by the "pastors" of the Home Friendship Groups....got a little crazy before we got a handle on it. Not GOOD crazy either! LOL
Beth
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06-18-2008, 10:42 PM
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Re: 15 Steps-Changing from Traditional to NT Churc
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Originally Posted by StMark
Do you agree with any of these??
None of these??
which ones and why ???
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ALL, because they are scriptural. What we have is not working .
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The Gospel of Jesus Christ: Jesus bore away my sins, my sickness, and my poverty. That covers it all. Everything else is just legalism.
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06-18-2008, 11:12 PM
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Re: 15 Steps-Changing from Traditional to NT Churc
Quote:
Originally Posted by StMark
Changing From Traditional Church To Nt Church- 15 Essential Steps, Dr Victor Choudhri (India)
CHANGING FROM TRADITIONAL CHURCH TO NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH FIFTEEN ESSENTIAL STEPS
1. Replace professional clergy with Priesthood of all Believers with authority to baptize, break bread and equip fishers of men. ( 1 Peter 2:9)
2. Replace Church building with "House of Peace." ( Luke 10:5-9; Matt. 10:11-13)
3. Replace programmed Sunday service with daily informal gatherings. The Bride of Christ must have intimacy with her Lord every day and not just for a couple of hours a week lest she become unfaithful. ( Acts 2:46-47; Hebrew 3:13)
4. Replace tithing with sharing the enormous financial resources and goodwill available in Christian homes. ( Deut. 8:17-18; Acts 5:32-34)
5. Replace the "Crumb and Sip" Holy Communion with simple "Community meals" eaten together with gladness from house to house. ( Acts 2:46; 1 Cor 11:20-23)
6. Replace loud music with speaking to each other in psalms and spiritual songs making melody in your heart. ( Eph 5:19; Col 3:16)
7. Replace the spectator church to participatory, interactive, prophetic and Missionary sending church. ( 1 Cor 14:26-31; Acts 13:13)
8. Replace organizational and denominational churches with citywide network of house churches. ( Romans 16:3-15)
9. Replace barren church with multiplication. The Bride must not remain barren, but reproduce and fill the earth. ( Acts 1: 8; 1 Cor 9: 19-30)
10. Replace submitting to one man - by submitting to each other. We must encourage, comfort, exhort, edify and serve one another. ( Galatians 5: 13; Eph. 4: 2, 15)
11. Replace purposeless church with a goal oriented mandate to disciple nations. ( Romans 15: 20; Matt. 28: 19)
12. Replace powerless and fruitless church with militants who heal the sick, raise the dead, expel the demons, bind the ‘strongman’ and plunder his possessions. (Matt 11:12, 12:29)
13. Replace all presidents, directors, chairman, secretaries and all the other non-biblical titles with apostles, prophets, and the fivefold ministry gifted elders. Change from a dead organization to living organism. ( Eph 4:11; Titus 1:5-9)
14. Replace all Sunday schools, Bible schools, and prayer cells and cottage meetings and call them full-fledged churches. So that they can disciple, baptize, break bread, equip and send missionaries. ( 1 Cor 16:19; Col 4:15)
15. Replace all selfish goats who are members for hatching, matching and dispatching with sheep who take care of the hungry, thirsty, naked, strangers, sick and the prisoners. (Matt. 25:31-46)
Victor Choudhrie is a cancer surgeon by profession. He is a senior Fellow of the American and British colleges of surgeons. He quit his job as the Director (CEO) of the Christian Medical college, Ludhiana in Punjab, India in 1992 to take up full time Church planting ministry in central India. His wife Bindu is also in full time church planting ministry, equipping women to be house church leaders and trainers. God has blessed this ministry abundantly. Large numbers of grassroots level leaders have been trained who have planted thousands of house churches all over India as a result.
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