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Old 06-17-2008, 07:56 PM
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Most of you have heard too much preaching....

Yes, I said too much preaching,...........and not enough teaching. You've heard too many sermons built on "catch-phrases", and not enough real solid teaching straight from the word.

The main job of the four-fold ministry is to equip and mature the saints that they might minister to the world. That job can only be accomplished through Bible based teaching.

I know this is going to make some of you mad. Of course, it wouldn't take much for some of you anyway.

Do you even remember what your pastor preached about two weeks ago on sunday morning? I don't remember a lot of preaching I heard in my life, but I remember many a Bible study.
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:11 PM
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Re: Most of you have heard too much preaching....

I agree with the lack of teaching, but I believe one arena of preaching has been forgotten, neglected, and even excommunicated from many churches today. That area is repentance. Years back, I heard many preachers speak on repentance, and it cause the altars to fill. Now, we have remove altars from our churches and personal prayer lives, and replaced conviction with feel good Christianity where all one has to do is say a prayer and get saved, without even needing to repent.

Yes, we need more teaching. We need A LOT more repentance preaching!
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:12 PM
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Re: Most of you have heard too much preaching....

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Yes, I said too much preaching,...........and not enough teaching. You've heard too many sermons built on "catch-phrases", and not enough real solid teaching straight from the word.

The main job of the four-fold ministry is to equip and mature the saints that they might minister to the world. That job can only be accomplished through Bible based teaching.

I know this is going to make some of you mad. Of course, it wouldn't take much for some of you anyway.

Do you even remember what your pastor preached about two weeks ago on sunday morning? I don't remember a lot of preaching I heard in my life, but I remember many a Bible study.
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:28 PM
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Re: Most of you have heard too much preaching....

Agreed. I was asked to speak at a Paltalk gathering a while back. Afterwards the Sister who invited me said "This is the FIRST TIME we have ever had a Teaching message here".
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Old 06-17-2008, 10:16 PM
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Re: Most of you have heard too much preaching....

Ministering is to edify or build up one another. There is teaching and equiping but there is also encourging and the gifts. We usually have teaching on a Wed night which is usually a time when sinners are not there. It is just saints. Sunday school is also usually more teaching style. Sunday nights are more of the enccouragement /prophetic types...by that I mean the preacher might have heard from God and delivered that idea to us.

However I do think there is not enough teaching., More specifically the kind of teaching that helps us to evangelism or know how to tell say a Mormon how to be saved
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Old 06-17-2008, 10:17 PM
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Agreed. I was asked to speak at a Paltalk gathering a while back. Afterwards the Sister who invited me said "This is the FIRST TIME we have ever had a Teaching message here".
Gosh...Is Paltalk still around? I used to visit there but it was just blood bath arguing between OPs and Trinitarians
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Re: Most of you have heard too much preaching....

I agree- one of my pet peeves is preachers that string together what I call pentecostal lollipops- phases that are guaranteed to get a whoop and a holler. Give me a preacher with some substance. I love preaching that makes me think and my husband and I will talk about several days after the sermon.
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Old 06-17-2008, 10:28 PM
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Re: Most of you have heard too much preaching....

I don't like the sound bites either. Honestly, there are times I feel like I am being insulted intellectually.
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Re: Most of you have heard too much preaching....

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I agree- one of my pet peeves is preachers that string together what I call pentecostal lollipops- phases that are guaranteed to get a whoop and a holler. Give me a preacher with some substance. I love preaching that makes me think and my husband and I will talk about several days after the sermon.
..........what I call pentecostal lollipops- phases that are guaranteed to get a whoop and a holler.........
Sis Blu.... You are soooooooo right! lololo Pentecostal lollipopsl... new expression to me lololo
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Old 06-17-2008, 10:34 PM
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Re: Most of you have heard too much preaching....

Or how about when the evangelist is preaching and it just ain't happenin....so he starts to dance and whoop....he might even jump off the podium or run the aisle
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