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03-08-2008, 06:45 PM
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District Puts WPF on Notice
What I get out of the letter is if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, eats like a duck, it probably is a duck. The upci makes a great case why upci affiliated ministeres should not license with the wpf...
http://www.wvupci.org/news/2008-03-0...Communiqué.asp
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03-08-2008, 07:36 PM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
This must be a cut and paste reply that the GB approved for the districts, as this is a carbon copy of what DB sent out to his district as well. I do know however, that while they give permission in this communique to fellowship WPF events, some districts have called pastors forbidding them to do so, which I feel is not only inappropriate but on the sly when considering this "official" statement. JMO
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03-08-2008, 07:39 PM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
Good point. However in places like Kansas and California, I understand why districts would take the extra step.
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This must be a cut and paste reply that the GB approved for the districts, as this is a carbon copy of what DB sent out to his district as well. I do know however, that while they give permission in this communique to fellowship WPF events, some districts have called pastors forbidding them to do so, which I feel is not only inappropriate but on the sly when considering this "official" statement. JMO
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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03-08-2008, 07:42 PM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
Why Kansas? It is my understanding that while quite a few may have left the UPCI, most if not all of them are just going GIB for now.
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03-08-2008, 07:44 PM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
For example purposes only.
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Why Kansas? It is my understanding that while quite a few may have left the UPCI, most if not all of them are just going GIB for now.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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03-08-2008, 07:55 PM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
It has begun ... it only will get worse.
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03-08-2008, 09:17 PM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
It will get a whole lot worse before it gets better. Couldn't we just set up a wrestling match between them.
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03-08-2008, 09:26 PM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
It's not going to get worse , there will be those that will leave, but not enough to effect the UPC. It is sad, but not note worthy really..as we have seen from the letters and district meetings it is being handled ethicly and with grace. Let them go, the fruits will reveal the tree...
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03-10-2008, 01:22 AM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
Look like there trying to get there house in order
The part that struck me was the last 3 paragraphs under
General Board Ruling
February 26, 2008
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It is imperative that we not only proclaim separation, but that it be taught so as to give this generation reason for the basic fundamentals as stated in the Articles of Faith.
The General Youth Department presented plans for Youth Congress 2009, outlining ideas that will incorporate this goal. In an attempt to realize the curbing of some problems and concerns, the General Youth Division will develop platform guidelines for both Youth Congress and Bible Quizzing.
Please know that there was a great spirit of unity and commitment to maintain our Apostolic identity while at the same time going forward with a strong passion for Global Impact.
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03-10-2008, 08:24 AM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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Originally Posted by Dan'D
Look like there trying to get there house in order
The part that struck me was the last 3 paragraphs under
General Board Ruling
February 26, 2008
It is imperative that we not only proclaim separation, but that it be taught so as to give this generation reason for the basic fundamentals as stated in the Articles of Faith.
The General Youth Department presented plans for Youth Congress 2009, outlining ideas that will incorporate this goal. In an attempt to realize the curbing of some problems and concerns, the General Youth Division will develop platform guidelines for both Youth Congress and Bible Quizzing.
Please know that there was a great spirit of unity and commitment to maintain our Apostolic identity while at the same time going forward with a strong passion for Global Impact.
Dan'D
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This reinforces my theory I put forth when the TV resolution passed that for at least the short term the UPC would swing hard right in over compensation to try and assure all (including themselves) that the TV resolution did not signal a change in the legalism.
I saw this same sort of thing when KH was first elected GS. Everybody considered him a liberal so in his first couple of message he made sure to prove his "street cred" by coming out strong against makeup on women and other old time Oneness Pentecostal hobby horses.
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