Interesting thought on O.T. Prophets

Sherri · #1 03-08-2008, 06:36 PM

A guy speaking at the conference we were in this week in Dallas brought up an interesting point. One of those things that just makes you go, "Hmmmmmm....".

He said that even though we call the end of Malachi and the first of Matthew the division of the Old Testament and New Testament, that the New Testament or "New Covenant" did not actually begin until Jesus' death, burial & resurrection. So all the stuff in the gospels before that happened, was really still Old Covenant, not New. Therefore, John the Baptist was the LAST Old Testament prophet. He came at the end of 400 years of silence and proclaimed Jesus. That wasn't even his main point, but it just kind of threw me; I'd never thought of it that way. Am I the only one???

Sam · #2 03-08-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

A guy speaking at the conference we were in this week in Dallas brought up an interesting point. One of those things that just makes you go, "Hmmmmmm....".

He said that even though we call the end of Malachi and the first of Matthew the division of the Old Testament and New Testament, that the New Testament or "New Covenant" did not actually begin until Jesus' death, burial & resurrection. So all the stuff in the gospels before that happened, was really still Old Covenant, not New. Therefore, John the Baptist was the LAST Old Testament prophet. He came at the end of 400 years of silence and proclaimed Jesus. That wasn't even his main point, but it just kind of threw me; I'd never thought of it that way. Am I the only one???

No, you're not the only one to see it that way.

Bro. Norris taught that John the Baptist was the last of the prophets in the style of the Old Testament. He based this on Luke 7:28

"GL" · #3 03-08-2008, 06:48 PM

Good thoughts.

I've always taught that John was the last and greatest OT prophet. "It is finished," was indeed the conclusion of much.

IMO, those 400 years were anything but years of silence - wars, etc. Perhaps a better way to say it is 400 years without documented God-breathed Word coming forth.

Bro-Larry · #4 03-08-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

A guy speaking at the conference we were in this week in Dallas brought up an interesting point. One of those things that just makes you go, "Hmmmmmm....".

He said that even though we call the end of Malachi and the first of Matthew the division of the Old Testament and New Testament, that the New Testament or "New Covenant" did not actually begin until Jesus' death, burial & resurrection. So all the stuff in the gospels before that happened, was really still Old Covenant, not New. Therefore, John the Baptist was the LAST Old Testament prophet. He came at the end of 400 years of silence and proclaimed Jesus. That wasn't even his main point, but it just kind of threw me; I'd never thought of it that way. Am I the only one???

Where have you been Sherri? (TIC) I posted that in post # 11 of Thread: Tithing, Is it a command , in Deep Waters.
Actually, Jesus was the last OT prophet. He called Himself a prophet in the synagoge at Nazereth, when He said, "A prophet is not without honor...".

Barb · #5 03-08-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by "GL"

Good thoughts.

I've always taught that John was the last and greatest OT prophet. "It is finished," was indeed the conclusion of much.

IMO, those 400 years were anything but years of silence - wars, etc. Perhaps a better way to say it is 400 years without documented God-breathed Word coming forth.

Me too...

Sherri · #6 03-08-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

Where have you been Sherri? (TIC) I posted that in post # 11 of Thread: Tithing, Is it a command , in Deep Waters.
Actually, Jesus was the last OT prophet. He called Himself a prophet in the synagoge at Nazereth, when He said, "A prophet is not without honor...".

I must have been hiding under a rock somewhere. I'd just never heard it taught that way! You know when something is in your brain for 50 years, it's hard to dislodge it!!!

Ron · #7 03-08-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

I must have been hiding under a rock somewhere. I'd just never heard it taught that way! You know when something is in your brain for 50 years, it's hard to dislodge it!!!

My wife frequently tells me of this!

mizpeh · #8 03-08-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

Where have you been Sherri? (TIC) I posted that in post # 11 of Thread: Tithing, Is it a command , in Deep Waters.
Actually, Jesus was the last OT prophet. He called Himself a prophet in the synagoge at Nazereth, when He said, "A prophet is not without honor...".

Jesus was the ultimate prophet who never uttered "thus saith the Lord"!

A_PoMo · #9 03-08-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

Jesus was the ultimate prophet who never uttered "thus saith the Lord"!

Yeah, I'd agree w/that. Jesus was the last OT prophet.

I've found that many of the things taught in the Gospels do not apply directly to the church. In principle yes, but the original audience was Jews in the Old Cov not Christians. It helps resolve some controversies when I remember that.

mizpeh · #10 03-08-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by A_PoMo

Yeah, I'd agree w/that. Jesus was the last OT prophet.

I've found that many of the things taught in the Gospels do not apply directly to the church. In principle yes, but the original audience was Jews in the Old Cov not Christians. It helps resolve some controversies when I remember that.

Is Jesus the last OT prophet and the first NT prophet?