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02-10-2007, 04:39 PM
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The ALJC and TV
HAHA!!!! The first TV thread (I think).
As we all know, the UPCI has tabled the issue of the resolution to allow advertisement on tv. It is scheduled to come up at this years GC in Tampa, FL.
So with that, I would like to go a different way with this subject. I think the ALJC as an Apostolic Org is a potential group for the UPCI to study. They allow their memebers to have tv, and also allow the churches to advertise, and broadcast on tv.
So what has the effect been on them?
Have they lost holiness standards?
Have they left the Truth of Oneness, and baptism in Jesus Name?
Where do you see the ALJC as an org?
Whatever your answers are to the above, I believe if the UPCI allows tv, they will begin to mirror the ALJC more.
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02-10-2007, 04:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew
HAHA!!!! The first TV thread (I think).
As we all know, the UPCI has tabled the issue of the resolution to allow advertisement on tv. It is scheduled to come up at this years GC in Tampa, FL.
So with that, I would like to go a different way with this subject. I think the ALJC as an Apostolic Org is a potential group for the UPCI to study. They allow their memebers to have tv, and also allow the churches to advertise, and broadcast on tv.
So what has the effect been on them?
Have they lost holiness standards?
Have they left the Truth of Oneness, and baptism in Jesus Name?
Where do you see the ALJC as an org?
Whatever your answers are to the above, I believe if the UPCI allows tv, they will begin to mirror the ALJC more.
What say Ye??
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i don't know about the advertisement issues and the UPCI. I know my church has advertised on TV and Radio.
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02-10-2007, 04:47 PM
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The ALJC (Memphis, TN) is a fine organization. They are open to fellowship with all OPs and, while there may be some liberal churches within the group, they seem to be more moderate than the UPC, which is conservative. Billy McCool of the First Apostolic Church in Knoxville was (and may still be) on TV, and his church is moderately conservative (if that is a label). Good group, good organization.
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02-12-2007, 02:16 AM
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Ironically, its not a growing organization overall. If television is the 'answer' then someone should explain the ALJC to the Apostolic movement.
They have some good men. They have some solid men. Even so it's interesting that it's dwindling and many of their key people - even officials - are leaving and going UPC.
I agree with Matt. If TV is the answer then someone needs to explain the ALJC's decline. It's not a lack of good people.
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02-12-2007, 09:29 AM
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My observations are if the tv ban has hindered growth the tv allowance hasn't worked for the ALJC either as an organization or in their churches.
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02-12-2007, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dean
Ironically, its not a growing organization overall. If television is the 'answer' then someone should explain the ALJC to the Apostolic movement.
They have some good men. They have some solid men. Even so it's interesting that it's dwindling and many of their key people - even officials - are leaving and going UPC.
I agree with Matt. If TV is the answer then someone needs to explain the ALJC's decline. It's not a lack of good people.
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It certainly doesn't seem to have helped their growth, which is what is being used as the reason to go on tv by those in the UPC that are for it!
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02-12-2007, 10:23 AM
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Wonder why there are so few of the pro-tv folks not posting on this thread.
I think the ALJC is a good example of a pro-tv org. While I do not think it has really did much for their growth, I also do not see them going to hell in a handbasket.
If just seems to me that the tv study committee should make the ALJC a big part of their study. Maybe they are? I don't know. I would love to have one of them come here and give us a rough outline of how they are going about this study.
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02-12-2007, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
Wonder why there are so few of the pro-tv folks not posting on this thread.
I think the ALJC is a good example of a pro-tv org. While I do not think it has really did much for their growth, I also do not see them going to hell in a handbasket.
If just seems to me that the tv study committee should make the ALJC a big part of their study. Maybe they are? I don't know. I would love to have one of them come here and give us a rough outline of how they are going about this study.
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Exactly!
I am pro tv in the sense that I think the technologies are not evil - only content.
The ALJC is proof positive that both extremes are probably wrong. Television won't singlehandedly win the world, and it for sure wouldn't destroy the church.
It is in effect, a non-issue. Much ado about nothing.
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02-12-2007, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Exactly!
I am pro tv in the sense that I think the technologies are not evil - only content.
The ALJC is proof positive that both extremes are probably wrong. Television won't singlehandedly win the world, and it for sure wouldn't destroy the church.
It is in effect, a non-issue. Much ado about nothing.
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I agree with PP. The issue is content.
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02-12-2007, 03:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew
HAHA!!!! The first TV thread (I think).
As we all know, the UPCI has tabled the issue of the resolution to allow advertisement on tv. It is scheduled to come up at this years GC in Tampa, FL.
So with that, I would like to go a different way with this subject. I think the ALJC as an Apostolic Org is a potential group for the UPCI to study. They allow their memebers to have tv, and also allow the churches to advertise, and broadcast on tv.
So what has the effect been on them?
Have they lost holiness standards?
Have they left the Truth of Oneness, and baptism in Jesus Name?
Where do you see the ALJC as an org?
Whatever your answers are to the above, I believe if the UPCI allows tv, they will begin to mirror the ALJC more.
What say Ye??
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When the UPC allows TV everyone will be able to take them out of the closet...I think many already have them, they just don't talk about it...As a mature woman and saint I feel I have good judgment and can have a TV and not watch trash...
Many years ago when my son was small he was never allowed to just sit in front of the TV for hours on end...he had a room full of books and he loved to read...I would not have let him sit in front of a computer either if we had had one back then
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