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Old 09-22-2008, 04:47 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

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But Paul didn't write in Latin, he used Greek. In the Greek it is very plainly a MASCULINE noun.
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Logic would dictate one who prophesies is a prophet.

Unfortunately, use of a lexicon does not render full understanding of a language, the masculine gender in a noun does NOT mean it only describes males. This is pretty much a universal fact for example in Spanish "chicos", which translates as boys, would still be the word used if it were in fact 99 girls and only one boy. Most of the Romance languages (languages based on Latin) as well as Greek etc. would follow this rule. Summary: the use of a masculine noun in NO wise is correctly rendered to be exclusionary to females.
BUMP for Mr Burk. I understand your confusion especially if you are conversant only in English, but the gender of a noun in most foreign tongues INCLUDING Greek is in no way evidence of the gender of the person(s) you are attempting to address. ESPECIALLY this is true of a mixture of male and female individuals. The masculine gender is used period.
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Old 09-22-2008, 04:51 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

I can paste the whole book here if I have time...however I think you must think I am pushing for women at the wheel...I am not...I only contend that God did and does use women.
Dear Brother Burk; You do not know me I do not know you...I was already a missionary when I married and had men that I won from the bar...women that I won from the world of prostitution.
When I married I called our people together and told them that Brother Alvear from that day forward would be their leader...that was many years ago...many...and never once have I ever tried to take his place...at first the people tried to keep coming to me but I sent them to Brother Alvear for I am smart enough to know that anything with two heads is deformed...In time they learned and I do not have a problem with people coming to me for decisions other than what is my responsibility.


Many of the old timers that paved the way were won by women...As a women I can tell you NO GODLY woman would ever want to rule over a man...but no godly women would let a child die of hunger in the absence of a man...
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Old 09-22-2008, 05:04 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

ACTS 8:3-5

3 But Saul began to destroy the church. Going from house to house, he dragged off men and women and put them in prison.

4 Those who had been scattered preached the word wherever they went.
those...is also men and women...
NIV

Acts 8:3-5

3 As for Saul, he made havoc of the church, entering every house, and dragging off men and women, committing them to prison.


Therefore those who were scattered went everywhere preaching the word. 5
NKJV

Acts 8:2-5
3 But Saul began ravaging the church, entering house after house, and dragging off men and women, he would put them in prison.

4 Therefore, those who had been scattered went about preaching the word.
NASU

Acts 8:3-4
3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.

4 Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.
KJV

Acts 8:3-4

3 But Saul laid waste the church, entering into every house, and dragging [B]men and women /B] committed them to prison.

4 They therefore that were scattered abroad, went about preaching the word.ASV

Acts 8:2-5
3 Saul was going everywhere to devastate the church. He went from house to house, dragging out both men and women to throw them into jail.

4 But the believers who had fled Jerusalem went everywhere preaching the Good News about Jesus.
NLT

Acts 8:3-4
3 Paul was like a wild man, going everywhere to devastate the believers, even entering private homes and dragging out men and women alike and jailing them.

4 But the believers who had fled Jerusalem went everywhere preaching the Good News about Jesus!TLB

Acts 8:3-4

3 But Saul tried to destroy the church; going from house to house, he dragged [B]out the believers, both men and women, and threw them into jail.[/
4 The believers who were scattered went everywhere, preaching the message.TEV

Acts 8:3-5
3 But Saul was ravaging the church, and entering house after house, he dragged off men and women and committed them to prison.

4 Now those who were scattered went about preaching the word. RSV

Acts 8:3-4
3 But Saul shamefully treated and laid waste the church continuously [with cruelty and violence]; and entering house after house, he dragged out men and women and committed them to prison.

4 Now those who were scattered abroad went about [through the land from place to place] preaching the glad tidings, the Word [the doctrine concerning the attainment through Christ of salvation in the kingdom of God]. AMP


Now it stands to reason if verse 3 is men and women v 4 is men and women...
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Old 09-22-2008, 05:06 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

my Portuguese Bibles say the same thing..MEN and Women...
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:03 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

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ACTS 8:3-5

3 But Saul began to destroy the church. Going from house to house, he dragged off men and women and put them in prison.

4 Those who had been scattered preached the word wherever they went.
those...is also men and women...
NIV

Acts 8:3-5

3 As for Saul, he made havoc of the church, entering every house, and dragging off men and women, committing them to prison.


Therefore those who were scattered went everywhere preaching the word. 5
NKJV

Acts 8:2-5
3 But Saul began ravaging the church, entering house after house, and dragging off men and women, he would put them in prison.

4 Therefore, those who had been scattered went about preaching the word.
NASU

Acts 8:3-4
3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.

4 Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.
KJV

Acts 8:3-4

3 But Saul laid waste the church, entering into every house, and dragging [B]men and women /B] committed them to prison.

4 They therefore that were scattered abroad, went about preaching the word.ASV

Acts 8:2-5
3 Saul was going everywhere to devastate the church. He went from house to house, dragging out both men and women to throw them into jail.

4 But the believers who had fled Jerusalem went everywhere preaching the Good News about Jesus.
NLT

Acts 8:3-4
3 Paul was like a wild man, going everywhere to devastate the believers, even entering private homes and dragging out men and women alike and jailing them.

4 But the believers who had fled Jerusalem went everywhere preaching the Good News about Jesus!TLB

Acts 8:3-4

3 But Saul tried to destroy the church; going from house to house, he dragged [B]out the believers, both men and women, and threw them into jail.[/
4 The believers who were scattered went everywhere, preaching the message.TEV

Acts 8:3-5
3 But Saul was ravaging the church, and entering house after house, he dragged off men and women and committed them to prison.

4 Now those who were scattered went about preaching the word. RSV

Acts 8:3-4
3 But Saul shamefully treated and laid waste the church continuously [with cruelty and violence]; and entering house after house, he dragged out men and women and committed them to prison.

4 Now those who were scattered abroad went about [through the land from place to place] preaching the glad tidings, the Word [the doctrine concerning the attainment through Christ of salvation in the kingdom of God]. AMP


Now it stands to reason if verse 3 is men and women v 4 is men and women...
Sister Alvear we agree on THIS passage I do believe BOTH men and women went preaching everywhere. I believe in this setting BOTH men and women preach to family-friends-neighbors. It is our obligation as saved folks and ambassators to tell everyone about this wonderful salvation and Saviour.
But NO where in the NT is it recorded where ONE of those women preached in a public assembly to men. With exception of the Book of Phoebe.
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:32 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

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I find it amazing that when the Bible says that Kings went to women to listen to them prophesy before going to battle and to hear the Word of the Lord that they say a woman cannot preach. Doesn't make any sense. Either women can speak the Word of the Lord or they cannot. And, God chose a woman to lead Israel into battle. Barak would not go without Deborah and a woman delivered Israel. Funny how a woman (women actually in this case) delivered Israel and then people say God cannot do it or that he just used women because there were no men to use. Well, maybe there are no men volunteering in many cases, if that is why God even chooses women.
Read the link and it will tell you all about those women in the bible that you list.

The following contains some good teaching against women preachers.

For all who are truly sincere seekers of the truth concerning this subject, I suggest you give it a read:

God Drew The Line Against Women Preachers

http://jesus-messiah.com/w-preach/wp-title.html

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Old 09-22-2008, 07:14 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

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So, I quess that makes the rest of us liars...lol...amazing how people judge...
To not believe in women preachers is Conservative...Well, my uncle was a Baptist preacher...they did not believe in WP´s...lol...
Sis. Alvear, I wouldn't even worry about what people think. Only eternity will tell the tale, and you're doing more for the kingdom than the majority of men who tell you you're not called to preach.

Just keep on keepin' on and let God be the judge!
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:33 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

Considering your source, wikipedia is more relaibale. Reckert's is more than a few fries short of a happy meal. He's also missing his toy.

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Read the link and it will tell you all about those women in the bible that you list.

The following contains some good teaching against women preachers.

For all who are truly sincere seekers of the truth concerning this subject, I suggest you give it a read:

God Drew The Line Against Women Preachers

http://jesus-messiah.com/w-preach/wp-title.html

God bless.
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I don't know of any. the only one i knew of was Marilyn Gasowsky and she was in San Franciso which is a foreign country so she was really a "missionary"
I won't answer on the grounds it might incenerate me!!

The first time I was married a woman preacher performed the ceremony and it lasted 53 wonderful years. The pastor was my aunt, Eva Hunt from Pana, Illinois. She was one great lady. A man performed my second marriage. I hope it lasts as long.
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

For those who want to do some study in the Greek.http://www.greek-language.com/lexical.aids/
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