SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

I don't know if anyone is taken. I am just saying that in this situation what if someone did think they were getting a legit degree and they weren't.

Then burn them at the stake for their own stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

I am not condoning or trying to hide anything these guys have done concerning the degrees. It's a shame if its true because I have to debate Trinitarians and what great ammo this will be when they learn of it. Esp if it is linked to me. I have always tried to go to good schools. I have spent thousands on my education at Liberty. I don't want to see others cheat the process with a free ride, trust me.

I just think the deal with the phone number is blown out of proportion. Maybe I am wrong.

That's progress.

[JN Anderson]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

What was your purpose in giving out the phone number - maybe that can assist in deciding if it was a wrong motive.

And, you haven't explained why I'm a hypocrite.

My purpose was to put the two together on the phone. KB said he was going to call. I told John the same day as well. I wasnt' giving it to KB to "go get dirt" but to call John and get the situation straight. Its a mess and its absurd.

I am sorry and I apologize for what happened after I gave the number. I felt it was a good thing to do instead of taking shots at each other over a forum.

[JN Anderson]

I have already lost friends over this thing. Some folks won't even talk to me now. I was not trying to gain anything because I surely lost instead of gaining.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

My purpose was to put the two together on the phone. KB said he was going to call. I told John the same day as well. I wasnt' giving it to KB to "go get dirt" but to call John and get the situation straight. Its a mess and its absurd.

I am sorry and I apologize for what happened after I gave the number. I felt it was a good thing to do instead of taking shots at each other over a forum.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Then burn them at the stake for their own stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ?

How about if we just allow them to burn their "degrees" and to disassociate themselves from the whole fraudulent mess?

And then they can seek out a course toward a real degree as JN has done and as so many other have done.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

My purpose was to put the two together on the phone. KB said he was going to call. I told John the same day as well. I wasnt' giving it to KB to "go get dirt" but to call John and get the situation straight. Its a mess and its absurd.

I am sorry and I apologize for what happened after I gave the number. I felt it was a good thing to do instead of taking shots at each other over a forum.

I would like to believe that completely, but if that was completely true, then why did you have an issue in telling Baron upfront?

[JN Anderson]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Yet one of the guys giving out the fake degrees was arrested and charged as a pedophile and for flee from prosecution in that case. His case is still open.

Wow. It only gets worse.

[Justin]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Baron and the rest of us were not "poking into alot of people's business." We were all looking at the public claims made by people operating in the public arena.

All of the information that has been posted is publicly and freely available.

The only private information that was ever given out was when you gave out Baron's cell phone number. Instead of boasting that you would do that again - you should examine your spirit. You wouldn't even tell him who you gave the number to - THUS - YOU! participated in the fraud that followed and the apparently criminal misrepresentations that were made in that phone call.

YOU could have quickly defused that that situation, or at least mitigated it. But instead you chose to participate in the fraud - unknowingly, I would say; but you ended you associating yourself with some very bad actors.

Post of the day!

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

No sir. A pedophile is not in the same league as a person with a degree from a diploma mill. We are not real sure if this is something deeper than we know and a few guys are being taken on these types of deals.

I wasn't talking about pedophiles, I meant that if this same thing happened outside of your circle of peers, you probably wouldn't care.

Originally Posted by pelathais

You participated and conspired to hide the identity of a caller (Boora) who went on to misrepresent himself as a member of the Washington DC Bar Association.

You then went on another forum and crowed about how a "lawyer" was going to bring down AFF. The whole affair involved misrepresentation and deceit.

Boora and the others made the fraudulent claims that fueled this thread. They publicly deceived the brethren with regard to their credentials. Exposing that fraud by linking to news stories and even police and court records is a service to Oneness community at large.

You, by your actions, have sought to obfuscate and even facilitate the deception. I trusted you, Bro. I spoke up for you all along the way. Please don't let me down.

Honestly, Boora's deception speaks volumes about his spirit. That, and the fact that he asked to have this thread deleted to cover up what has been uncovered. I wonder what everyone at AMF has to say about this?

[JN Anderson]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I would like to believe that completely, but if that was completely true, then why did you have an issue in telling Baron upfront?

Because he asked me not too. I told this to John over the phone. I said he would know by morning. He knew who it was by that night though.