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Old 06-10-2015, 09:34 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?

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No reason to think not, however the Tetragrammaton should be pronounced.

In Genesis 4:26, people began calling on the name of YHWH, or YHVH, as it may be. This was when Seth's son, or Adam's grandson, was born. Adam was still alive at this point, having not died until close to the time of the Flood. In order to call upon God's name, the pronunciation of It had to be known to those who were invoking Him by name.

How could men call upon YHWH if God never revealed His name to anyone?

How could God's name YHWH be a strictly Hebrew name/word when the Hebrew language didn't even exist when men began calling upon His name in the days of Adam, Seth, and Seth's son, Enos?

Genesis 4:26,
So, if YHVH wasn't originally Hebrew, why then did it end up being used as a verb in the Hebrew language?
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Old 06-10-2015, 09:50 PM
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See my response to EB. God's name predates the Hebrew language.
You sound pretty convinced? Yet you have no empirical evidence for this above statement? 'Elohiym? Was that also an original term for God? Meaning that Moses records that in the beginning 'Elohiym, this is found in the same book where the verb ehyeh is used as calling on the name. Also in Exodus 6:3 it states that ehyeh wasn't the name that was made fully known to the patriarchs, but they only refereed to God as the almighty one. Does this mean that somewhere between Adam, Seth, and Noah, the name was missing? Or, did Moses just use the verb ehyeh because it was the name mentioned to him out of the burning bush? Then use that verb in all five books which he penned?
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Hey Adam's name does mean RED MAN.
You sure it does not mean sitting bull?
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No reason to think not, however the Tetragrammaton should be pronounced.

In Genesis 4:26, people began calling on the name of YHWH, or YHVH, as it may be. This was when Seth's son, or Adam's grandson, was born. Adam was still alive at this point, having not died until close to the time of the Flood. In order to call upon God's name, the pronunciation of It had to be known to those who were invoking Him by name.

How could men call upon YHWH if God never revealed His name to anyone?

How could God's name YHWH be a strictly Hebrew name/word when the Hebrew language didn't even exist when men began calling upon His name in the days of Adam, Seth, and Seth's son, Enos?

Genesis 4:26,
The Tetragrammaton is Hebrew.....

Yhwh means "He is"...whatever language he spoke, he used the word for "He is"....

The bible was written in Hebrew so the recorde the name as Yhwh.
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I am not, nor have I insisted that Native Americans have retained the true or only form of God's name. I have suggested the possibility that they have, in their own language, since forever, have retained a knowledge of God's name that, in their own language, is a compatible equal to the Hebrew Tetragrammaton.
I suppose it's possible. Maybe they are descendents of Nephilim too.
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I already said it can't be proven empirically. Are you skimming my posts?
Maybe you should tell us what you want from us? Did you want us to just go "hmmmm, interesting" and never post again?

Did you want us to agree with you? What do you want us to do? I don't understand why our responses bother you so much. Did you want us to try to help you prove it's all true?
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You sure it does not mean sitting bull?
Maybe it means Big Chief Makes It Up As He Goes Along?
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Maybe it means Big Chief Makes It Up As He Goes Along?
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I suppose it's possible. Maybe they are descendents of Nephilim too.
I think that was on Art Bell.

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I'm gonna see if brother Reckart has anything to say about this Tetragrammaton business...
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