Who Is The Holy Spirit? - Page 9

seekerman · #81 10-12-2013, 07:20 AM

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Yeah...don't see the word "indwelling" there.

Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

Act 7:55 But he [Stephen], being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God

How could Jesus and Stephen be full of the Holy Ghost and the Holy Ghost not indwell them?

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Also Jesus wasn't just full of the Spirit
Col 2:9 For in him all the fullness of deity lives in bodily form,

Yep. But the Holy Ghost alone isn't the fullness of deity?

seekerman · #82 10-12-2013, 07:41 AM

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Right, what else is in Jesus other than the Holy Ghost? That's the question that isn't being answered.

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Humanity

The Holy Ghost plus humanity = the fullness of the Godhead?

Originalist · #83 10-12-2013, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

Act 7:55 But he [Stephen], being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God

How could Jesus and Stephen be full of the Holy Ghost and the Holy Ghost not indwell them?

Yep. But the Holy Ghost alone isn't the fullness of deity?

So you do not see the statement of Col. 2:9 as being exclusive to Christ ? Just asking for a clarification of your position?

seekerman · #84 10-12-2013, 10:34 AM

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So you do not see the statement of Col. 2:9 as being exclusive to Christ ? Just asking for a clarification of your position?

No doubt Col 2:9 is speaking exclusively of Christ, but you cannot have verse 9 without verse 10....

Col 2:9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, 10 and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;

Praxeas · #85 10-12-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

Act 7:55 But he [Stephen], being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God

How could Jesus and Stephen be full of the Holy Ghost and the Holy Ghost not indwell them?

Yep. But the Holy Ghost alone isn't the fullness of deity?

What does "indwell" mean? If I fill a glass with Pepsi does the Pepsi indwell the glass?

"Fulness of Deity" refers to the attributes not an ethereal substance that get's poured into a container

Also it says "in bodily form", which is not the same as "in a body"

And lastly it says "Fullness of" which is not the same as being full of Something

Praxeas · #86 10-12-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

The Holy Ghost plus humanity = the fullness of the Godhead?

no, you asked what else he was full of.

Originalist · #87 10-12-2013, 03:22 PM

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No doubt Col 2:9 is speaking exclusively of Christ, but you cannot have verse 9 without verse 10....

Col 2:9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, 10 and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;

I already beat you to that point. If there is no difference in Christ and us as it relates to how the Spirit indwells, then we too are the head of all principality and power , and peopleare complete in us.

seekerman · #88 10-12-2013, 03:33 PM

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What does "indwell" mean? If I fill a glass with Pepsi does the Pepsi indwell the glass?

"Fulness of Deity" refers to the attributes not an ethereal substance that get's poured into a container

Also it says "in bodily form", which is not the same as "in a body"

And lastly it says "Fullness of" which is not the same as being full of Something

Does the Holy Ghost indwell you? Did the Holy Ghost indwell Stephen? Did the Holy Ghost indwell Jesus? Did the Holy Ghost indwell those on the day of Pentecost?

I don't expect a direct answer from you, just more of your typical word games.

seekerman · #89 10-12-2013, 03:37 PM

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I already beat you to that point. If there is no difference in Christ and us as it relates to how the Spirit indwells, then we too are the head of all principality and power , and peopleare complete in us.

Of course not. Simply because the Holy Ghost indwelled both Jesus and Stephen doesn't mean that Stephen = Jesus. The indwelling of the Holy Ghost doesn't mean that we have the same calling and anointing.

Originalist · #90 10-12-2013, 04:21 PM

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Of course not. Simply because the Holy Ghost indwelled both Jesus and Stephen doesn't mean that Stephen = Jesus. The indwelling of the Holy Ghost doesn't mean that we have the same calling and anointing.

Oh so now it's OK for YOU to bring up callings, anointings, functions, etc., but not me?

So then, by your own admission, Jesus could ,as a man, be filled with an anointing of the Spirit, and yet still be the embodiment of that Spirit in flesh.
Jesus' "anointing" is to be the Spirit in bodily form, and the place through which that deity is expressed and rule takes place. You will never see any other visible expression of God than what you see in the Son. Get used to it.