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Old 06-19-2012, 09:36 AM
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We were talking about the Texas Border, Padre.
Padre? I'm not that old! (Am I? )
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Green cards/work permits don't guarantee the person is not menace to society.
Neither does citizenship.
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Padre? I'm not that old! (Am I? )
Didn't you have ANOTHER birthday yesterday?

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Neither does citizenship.
Of course that is logically true, but it's harder to take when it's a foreigner. And harder to take when you don't know anything about them, can't trace their family, etc.
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:20 AM
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It's sad that NAFTA unleashed a wave of poverty on both the american people and the mexican people.

NAFTA was supposed to have brought economic prosperity to all people. Instead it brought prosperity to the elite.

Consider the article: NAFTA was sold to the American public as the magic formula that would improve the American economy at the same time it would raise up the impoverished Mexican economy. The time has come to look at the failures of this type of trade agreement before we engage in more and lower the economic prospects of all workers affected.

While there has been some media coverage of NAFTA's ruinous impact on US industrial communities, there has been even less media attention paid to its catastrophic effects in Mexico:

NAFTA, by permitting heavily-subsidized US corn and other agri-business products to compete with small Mexican farmers, has driven the Mexican farmer off the land due to low-priced imports of US corn and other agricultural products. Some 2 million Mexicans have been forced out of agriculture, and many of those that remain are living in desperate poverty. These people are among those that cross the border to feed their families. (Meanwhile, corn-based tortilla prices climbed by 50%. No wonder many so Mexican peasants have called NAFTA their 'death warrant.'

According to the article, we, like the mexican people were promised better jobs, more jobs. But as our jobs entered that giant sucking sound Ross Perot talked about, it got slimy for the mexican people too. Many lost their farms, earned subsistent wages and braved people hostile to their coming here to America.

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The massive tide of illegal immigration from Mexico is merely one symptom of an economic arrangement where human needs -- not maximum profits-- are not the ultimate goal but a subject of neglect. Neither a massive, shameful barrier at the border nor a disposable guest-worker program will address the problems ignited by NAFTA.

Programs providing stable, decent employment, modern transportation, clean water, and environmental cleanup are needed to take the place of the immense NAFTA failure and allow Mexicans to live decent, hopeful lives in their native land. But such an effort is imaginable only if the aim is truly mutual uplift for all citizens in both nations, instead of the NAFTA-fueled race to the bottom.

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0425-30.htm

While it is NOT acceptable for illegals to molest our women and children, we americans are ignorant about how their way of life has been torn up by this treaty. We know ours has been torn up, but the media has not been printing anything about how they live in squalor. I think the people there have been brainwashed into believing certain things about our country and our people that aren't true. They may also have some misplaced anger concerning the american people.

However, if they come here and think that they can do here what they do in their own country...well...they are seeing that it don't work that way. The laws in their own country may not protect their innocents, but we do have laws here that do protect the innocent. Justice is meted out to those here who perpetuate violence and thievery even on illegals.

I know some decent mexican human beings and I know some scoundrels. One being a mexican lady who sucked off an old woman for 30 years to the tune of over $30,000 +, her family alleges.

If the true beneficiaries can keep the people fighting with each other as a smokescreen, while they reap in profits, it is the people who have families trying to subsist on low wages that will be destroyed and not the instigators.
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I am still having a problem with the Texas Rangers examining a child that had just been through trauma.
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I am still having a problem with the Texas Rangers examining a child that had just been through trauma.
Cindy, I don't mean to be graphic, but could she possibly have been bleeding? I'm mean she was 5 and he was 47. And, BTW, his name was Jesus Mora Flores. There are other indications that he had a "purchased" green card and was here illegally.

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But it is now clear that the father walked into a even more horrifying scene than previously known.

“When emergency medical personnel arrived, Jesus Mora Flores‘ pants and underwear were down and the man’s genitals were exposed,” Harmon was quoted saying.
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I am still having a problem with the Texas Rangers examining a child that had just been through trauma.
Haven't read all the news stories, but the only place I've seen that little "fact" is on breitbart.com. Other outlets I've seen only say she was taken to a hospital to be examined.
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Haven't read all the news stories, but the only place I've seen that little "fact" is on breitbart.com. Other outlets I've seen only say she was taken to a hospital to be examined.
Yes, that is protocol.They have specially trained medical personnel for molestation and rape victims. And the exam is also horrifying to an adult, much less a child. That report made it seem like the Rangers were examining her, and I don't think they would do that.
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