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10-13-2011, 05:45 PM
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Re: General Conference 2011 Kentucky
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Funny! Of course my understanding is that "visitors" can come in to the PM service free - with a special push on Fri night to do just that.
You still have enough HG left (even if barely) to be called a brother - so you pay!  |
Dude! I only came for the evening service and YES, I had to pay. Grace may be free, but GC is not.
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Re: General Conference 2011 Kentucky
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Why don't we all just start calling her "The woman formerly known as Reider". Everyone will know who we're talking about.
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LOL!!!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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10-13-2011, 11:16 PM
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Re: General Conference 2011 Kentucky
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Originally Posted by CC1
LOL!!! Carp and Randy Wayne, you guys are bad.
If they continue GC I think I should partner with Sister Ruth formerly Reider now Harvey and sell some "Holy Hair Dolls" for little UPC girls. A Barbie knockoff with hair to their feet and a dress covering them from the top of the neck to the bottom of their ankles. Deluxe editions could come bundled with her children's books on dressing holy.
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Don't give them any ideas! It's not that far fetched  . Legalism in a box!
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10-16-2011, 11:44 AM
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Re: General Conference 2011 Kentucky
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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop
Did I read this right? Do you have to pay to get into the General Conference of the UPC to hear people sing and preach? Do you have to pay to watch it on line? Could someone post the price list again? Entrance Fee to a service and fee to watch it.
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I attended Friday afternoon and evening. Entrance to the exhibit halls was free to the general public. Admission was charged for the evening services only. Tickets were $20 per adult; children under 18 were admitted at no charge. I presumed this was to help defray the expense of renting Freedom Hall.
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I am SURE it must be for crowd control because so many are trying to get in and there are not enough seats! I wonder how many they are having to turn away because of crowd capacity? Probably thousands.
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Seating capacity for Friday night's setup is ~17,400. The floor was full. The first tier of stadium seating was just about full. The balcony perhaps 1/3 to 1/4 full. My guess: probably 11,000 to 13,000 in attendance.
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I got a tweet this week that Jack Cunningham said there were more than 40,000 UPC Churches. How about that!
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That is great! God is moving!
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10-16-2011, 11:45 AM
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Re: General Conference 2011 Kentucky
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And you KNOW they are still going to take 30-45 minutes to receive offerings.
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Friday night anyhow they cut it short. It wasn't excessive. The focus was on honoring missionaries. I found it tasteful, touching, and moving.
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10-16-2011, 11:49 AM
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Re: General Conference 2011 Kentucky
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Originally Posted by n david
$25 for a terrible low-quality stream? That's ridiculous. The UPCI continues to cement themselves as the modern day Pharisees.
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I disagree with this. Certainly there are some everywhere with erroneous understanding but the broad brush is misapplied here.
I find that those who are prone to make the accusation of Pharisee lack depth of understanding of the doctrines of the accused.
I wonder if "n david" has a problem with tax collectors?
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"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Sir Winston Churchill
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Churchill
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin
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10-16-2011, 11:51 AM
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Re: General Conference 2011 Kentucky
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
My feelings as an outsider is that it is no big deal. Every meeting I attend has a fee for admission. The convention center is not cheap to rent and these are economincally difficult times for the UPC as well as almost every other group. The admission is relatively inexpensive so my advice is to suck it up and show up if you believe in your cause. I won't be there, but I hope it is a great event for all who attend. God bless.
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Amen.
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"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Sir Winston Churchill
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Churchill
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin
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10-16-2011, 11:53 AM
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Re: General Conference 2011 Kentucky
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Originally Posted by CC1
...Some wealthy UPCer ought to just pony up fifty or one hundred grand and sponser free high quality streaming.
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Spread the wealth around?
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Engineering solutions for theological problems.
Despite today's rising cost of living, it remains popular.
"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Sir Winston Churchill
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Churchill
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin
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10-16-2011, 11:59 AM
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Re: General Conference 2011 Kentucky
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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin
I understand they are going to start charging us to talk about them on AFF. They just haven't figured out a collection system yet!  just kidding  |
You'll pay, eventually! 
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
They are missing the opportunity to sell concessions, popcorn, hotdogs, nachos, they should sell those big foam fingers, those light spinney things like they have at the circus in the form of the Word Aflame logo, can you imagine 1000 of those things spinning in the crowd? People would definitely get in the spirit.
You could even have those guys selling peanuts in the isle just holding a sign instead of calling out! Peanuts, Lemonade, Beer here!!!!! OOooops, maybe thats not a good idea. 
Churches could run the stands as a fund raiser! Cmon UPCI, think outside the Box!!!! |
The venue won't undercut their current vendors.
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Originally Posted by CC1
LOL!!! Carp and Randy Wayne, you guys are bad.
If they continue GC I think I should partner with Sister Ruth formerly Reider now Harvey and sell some "Holy Hair Dolls" for little UPC girls. A Barbie knockoff with hair to their feet and a dress covering them from the top of the neck to the bottom of their ankles. Deluxe editions could come bundled with her children's books on dressing holy.
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You'll pay, eventually!
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Engineering solutions for theological problems.
Despite today's rising cost of living, it remains popular.
"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Sir Winston Churchill
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Churchill
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin
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10-16-2011, 12:02 PM
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Re: General Conference 2011 Kentucky
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Originally Posted by acjcpastor
Disneyland does nothing for me? Then why have I been going for all these years?
I’m sorry, I expect to pay for entertainment but I also expect the gospel to remain free and for whosever will come. Rev 22:17 says, "And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely."
When the Spirit says "Come" but the bride says "stop and pay at the door," IMHO, we've denigrated the gospel, our worship and preaching to the level of entertainment. |
This didn't and doesn't happen.
You are confusing an annual conference of an organization's preachers for the regular evangelical outreach services of their local churches.
Admission is charged for the conference.
Admission is NOT charged to attend your local UPC church to hear the gospel, worship, and join the bride.
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Engineering solutions for theological problems.
Despite today's rising cost of living, it remains popular.
"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Sir Winston Churchill
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Churchill
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin
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