Assuming that you mean sin, by "walking after the flesh" - then no. That particular vessel has chosen to remove itself (himself/herself) from the exclusive use in the sanctuary and is now being filled with "unclean" elements and is used for things that God never intended for the vessel.
The vessel must be cleaned and reconsecrated by the High Priest (Hebrews 9:8-28). The vessel itself cannot "clean up" itself and make itself holy once again. It could never make itself holy in the first place. Only the High Priest can accomplish this.
It is the High Priest Who consecrates and makes His vessels holy for the service He intends.
My current take is that one can be spirit filled and not be holy but one cant' be holy without the Spirit.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
My current take is that one can be spirit filled and not be holy but one cant' be holy without the Spirit.
I probably agree with that. However, I would have serious misgivings about the idea of actually "being Spirit filled" and simultaneously involved in open or even secret sin.
There's obviously a "gray area" that a Spirit-filled believer can wander into and the exhortations of the apostles abound with warnings and many encouraging words to avoid that area.
My only "argument" here is that to be "holy" one needs a work of God in their lives. We can't do it ourselves. It's supernatural.
I probably agree with that. However, I would have serious misgivings about the idea of actually "being Spirit filled" and simultaneously involved in open or even secret sin.
There's obviously a "gray area" that a Spirit-filled believer can wander into and the exhortations of the apostles abound with warnings and many encouraging words to avoid that area.
My only "argument" here is that to be "holy" one needs a work of God in their lives. We can't do it ourselves. It's supernatural.
I agree it's 100% God thing, but do see where a spirit person could be lacking holiness thus causing a beffeting/chatisement of the Lord.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
If all legalists acted with love and compassion they would stop being legalists. I don't know anyone like you in the "apostolic" ranks. You can teach issi and company a few things about being a follower of Christ. Heaven will have a difficult time repaying you and your family for the sacrifices you make for the gospel. Thank you for making an impact in this world.
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Well...we cannot please everyone that is for sure....looks like he imagines too much and dreams of himself being some holy prophet...lol...
One thing for certain I am glad God will NOT judge us according to him...
God is love and love is a rare thing on most forums....
Thank you MOW for such kind remarks....we too think a lot of you and Diane.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
Am I gonna hafta read the whole book?! I wanna be spoon-fed!
Galatians 5:16-26 speaks about walking "in" or "by means of" the Spirit and contrasts that type life to that lived in "the flesh" or "lower nature" or "human nature."
Some teach that when we get saved Jesus comes in as the Holy Spirit but we retain our human or sinful nature until death or until it is changed at the rapture.
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Sam also known as Jim Ellis
Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
Galatians 5:16-26 speaks about walking "in" or "by means of" the Spirit and contrasts that type life to that lived in "the flesh" or "lower nature" or "human nature."
Some teach that when we get saved Jesus comes in as the Holy Spirit but we retain our human or sinful nature until death or until it is changed at the rapture.
That's more like it! Thanks, Sam.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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