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View Poll Results: Would you ever shoplit?
I would starve myself and my children before I would shoplift. 6 35.29%
I would starve myself before I would shoplift, but not starve my children. 5 29.41%
I would shoplift as a very last resort to feed my children only. 2 11.76%
I would shoplift as a very last resort to feed myself. 3 17.65%
I would shoplift if we had only beans to eat. 0 0%
I would shoplift for shampoo if I needed it. 0 0%
What's your is mine and I am welcome to it. 1 5.88%
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:51 AM
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(Did you read the last line of my post? )
Yes.
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Good post, tstew.

I really object, though, to a pastor giving his congregants permission to steal. (I think that's what brought up the conversation in the first place.) Maybe someone who would otherwise try other means might then use it as a first resort.

I believe we should plan in advance to do what is right, and then ask for forgiveness if we fail. I believe stealing is wrong even in dire circumstances, and it's better to trust God to provide your needs if all other resources have disappeared. Obviously, being an American, my perspective is skewed by the fact that I have never been that desolate. Even the most poor among us have probably not suffered what those in other countries suffer on a regular basis.

Would I think badly of someone who stole to feed their family? No! Absolutely not. I completely understand the desperation and reasoning behind it.
I agree, and I read the article and was thinking more of America.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:04 PM
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Before I post my answer I will say that I did not take the poll. I also did not read the story, so I am responding to the question.
I would never steal anything be it from a store or anywhere else. As we all know stealing is not of God; and is a sin. Growing up there were times when my family had no food in our house. Not even a stick of chewing gum, but God always provided a way for our family to eat. The Lord provided manna from heaven for the children of Israel in the wilderness, and he provides for his children today. We serve a God of provision. I remember a lesson my father once taught and said something that has always stuck with me. "The people of God are not destitute" God will always provide a "ram in the bush". The Lord will not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. I would keep my faith and trust in Jesus Christ. (Having said that I'll read the article now).
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Re: Would You Shoplift to Feed Your Children?

Here's an indisputable fact: God does not always provide food for those who need it.
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Here's an indisputable fact: God does not always provide food for those who need it.
That's a fact.
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Here's an indisputable fact: God does not always provide food for those who need it.
That indeed is a fact. Glad to be part of the church and for the word of God.
"I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread". Psalms 37:25
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:36 PM
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That indeed is a fact. Glad to be part of the church and for the word of God.
"I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread". Psalms 37:25
Are you actually arguing that if someone is living for God they are guaranteed not to starve?
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Did a believer ever starve in the bible?
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Did a believer ever starve in the bible?
Not sure, but I'll guess "no". How is that relevant?
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Not sure, but I'll guess "no". How is that relevant?
Because ILG said this:

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Are you actually arguing that if someone is living for God they are guaranteed not to starve?
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Here's an indisputable fact: God does not always provide food for those who need it.
So the question is, DID BELIEVERS ever starve, whether or not God provided for food for unbelievers?

The bible said that God heals the land if people turn from their wicked ways to Him. In India, they worship the cow and drink its urine in that worship. Would God bless them with plenty in all this when he said He'd heal the land IF they turn to Him? So this answers your assertion that God does not provide food for those who need it.
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