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Steve Epley · #81 04-18-2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

Good point. And when I read the Epistles, those preachers are in my life. Thanks, I feel better now.

Hey, preaching is good. Preachers are wonderful. But the idea that nobody's getting saved without one (a literal, human preacher, here and now) is a little hard to swallow.

Hate to tell you Timmy sometimes the word gets out rather slow but those good men are dead. They cannot watch for your souls since they are dead.
They cannot carry a burden for you or pray for you. They cannot be there when you need someone. But the good news is that Gid yet today in 2007 has preachers that will preach the words left by these men.

Sherri · #82 04-18-2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Michlow

We'll have to talk some time

I guess I just have a good pastor and good church so it's hard for me to understand those who don't. I've been blessed!
By the way, I was thinking of you today. I miss talking to you!! Hope you're doing well!

Michael The Disciple · #83 04-18-2007, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

Why would anyone NOT want a home church and a pastor? I just don't understand it.

I dont know of ANY Christian who does not want a home Church and Eldership. Many do want it and pray for it. What we/I dont want is the typical Apostolic Church that teaches error as much as Trins except for Oneness and Acts 2:38.

So if one follows a false teacher he is safe just as long as he attends Church?

Old Paths · #84 04-18-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I dont know of ANY Christian who does not want a home Church and Eldership. Many do want it and pray for it. What we/I dont want is the typical Apostolic Church that teaches error as much as Trins except for Oneness and Acts 2:38.

So if one follows a false teacher he is safe just as long as he attends Church?

Who said that?

Carpenter · #85 04-18-2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by John Atkinson

Yes, you are right, when it is all said and done we will be judged by the choices we make, not by the circumstances that influenced those choices. Hard fact but a fact it is.

Well stated...

I think however that some decisions can only be considered in the light of the circumstances.

A man who throws his dog overboard because the pirates want to eat it will be judged for throwing his dog into the sea but hopefully with a bit of relief.

#86 04-19-2007, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Paths

Yeah I have them right here....

Uhhhh someplace ....

let me see....

Can't seem to locate them....

Just a minute.....

Hon, where did I .....

Oh here it is.....

By this logic, if I have a copy of the Constitution I can proclaim myself president of the United States... if you claim that the Bible is your "letter of marque", then can you tell me what page it lists your name specifically? This shouldn't be too much to ask, because otherwise any of the 7 billion people on this planet could present the same proof that they represent God and are acting on his authority.

You guys are putting the cart before the horse, you claim all of this authority, yet other than the fact that you believe God has placed you in this position, you have no proof.

Rico · #87 04-19-2007, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner

At the end of the day, whatever has happened to you is no excuse for not obeying the WOrd of God.

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Exactly. The part people seem to conveniently forget is that NO ONE CAN DO EVERYTHING THE BIBLE SAYS TO DO. If it were possible for anyone to do everything the Bible says to do then there would have been no reason whatsoever for Jesus to have to come to Earth in the first place. The minute anyone makes the focus of their walk with God a matter of following rules then salvation stops being by grace and starts being by works, thereby nullifying everything Jesus did on Calvary. This is what annoys me so much about dealing with church people. The high and mighty ones forget that we are all in the same boat, depending on God's grace and mercy.

Rico · #88 04-19-2007, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Michlow

I don't hate anyone! Certainly not preachers or pastors or anyone else, even you

And I do submit to authority. I just don't necessarily recognize as authority the same offices that you do. But I submit to the goverment, to the police, to my Boss.

Sister, you are wasting you time. If you don't bow down to them you are lost and headed straight for hell.

Rico · #89 04-19-2007, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I said that because it is so God is NOT going to change his method for folks in this day. Not a personal reference to you but a statement of fact. It pleased GOD by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.(1Cor.1:21) That is God's ONLY method it is that or Hell the choice is yours.

Ok. If God isn't going to change His method then every single pastor in the Church needs to step down and let elders be ordained to run the church. That's how it was done in the Bible.

Rico · #90 04-19-2007, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Sorry Timmy you would not know anything about the other things you mnetioned without a preacher OR are you one of those that Gabriel and Micheal deliver the dead sea scrolls on your front lawn every morning?
How shall they hear without a preacher? THAT IS IN YOUR BIBLE! Try reading it sometimes.

This is hilarious. Why do you think people aren't able to read what it takes to be saved? It's right there in plain old style English.