What is your greatest ability? - Page 9

Monkeyman · #81 02-12-2007, 09:59 PM

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#82 02-12-2007, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

That is true! When you submit to a man of God and let them pastor you, you feel like they are going to get the mind of God with you.......and they use the "submission" part of the bible to keep people where they want them....I have actually heard preachers say that the man of God hears from God for the saints, including the "called" preachers. So if you feel direction from God and the man of God doesn't , he considers you out of the will of God if you leave because he doesnt' see it..... GET IT!!!!

Perhaps if people read the bible for themselves they would see that this is not biblical...

#83 02-12-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by whollyHis

This thread is a prime example of why I didn't want to post my thoughts to begin with- but, conceded to BOOM's admonishment...

We have been at the church we attend now, for about eight years. There are multiple lay ministers that I have heard preach MAYBE one time...some not at all...

Sad, in my opinion...

We have a grand piano and a B3 organ that sit idle...more than enough willing talent to have them played...sad, in my opinion...

I'll say no more...

God bless all of you wonderful pastors out there who recognize folks' gifts to the church...

I'm not really sure what you have issues with and why. I hope nothing I said made you feel any worse because it was certainly not my intent.

On another note... I thought it was a sin for an apostolic church to not make use of a B3. Time for repentence!

Monkeyman · #84 02-12-2007, 10:34 PM

Playing 3 chords on my Fender strat like a rockstar!!!

stmatthew · #85 02-12-2007, 10:45 PM

Well,

I can complain with the best of them. I have been in places where I preached almost as much as the pastor, and I have set wringing my hands year after year, wondering why the pastor used no one in the church, but often talked about needing help.

What I have learned in my short life, is that IF a person wants to minister, whether it be a preaching type ministry, or a witnessing type ministry, there is plenty of room outside the 4 walls of the church to do so.

There is no excuse for 7 - 10 preachers to be sitting within a church while there are so many going to hell. GET OUT and do what you are called to do! WIN THE LOST!!!

The issue is not that there is not a need. The issue is that young ministers want a pulpit ministry to boost their ego, instead of having a burden for souls.

whollyHis · #86 02-12-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

Well,

I can complain with the best of them. I have been in places where I preached almost as much as the pastor, and I have set wringing my hands year after year, wondering why the pastor used no one in the church, but often talked about needing help.

What I have learned in my short life, is that IF a person wants to minister, whether it be a preaching type ministry, or a witnessing type ministry, there is plenty of room outside the 4 walls of the church to do so.

There is no excuse for 7 - 10 preachers to be sitting within a church while there are so many going to hell. GET OUT and do what you are called to do! WIN THE LOST!!!

The issue is not that there is not a need. The issue is that young ministers want a pulpit ministry to boost their ego, instead of having a burden for souls.

I can appreciate this post,and I agree. The men that I refer to are NOT young, nor young in the Lord...they are all busy for the Kingdom- prisons, nursing homes, chaplains, etc...they'll have their reward...*smile* What I cannot understand, is shutting down church when pastor is gone for one service...I say,Let'em have at it!!!

whollyHis · #87 02-12-2007, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Apostolic Kitty

I'm not really sure what you have issues with and why. I hope nothing I said made you feel any worse because it was certainly not my intent.

On another note... I thought it was a sin for an apostolic church to not make use of a B3. Time for repentence!

Ni issues with anyone, but I knew that the pastors on here would be defensive when I stated my opinion- and , they were. But, that's okay.

LaVonne · #88 02-12-2007, 11:49 PM

Cleaning and organizing.

stmatthew · #89 02-12-2007, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by whollyHis

I can appreciate this post,and I agree. The men that I refer to are NOT young, nor young in the Lord...they are all busy for the Kingdom- prisons, nursing homes, chaplains, etc...they'll have their reward...*smile* What I cannot understand, is shutting down church when pastor is gone for one service...I say,Let'em have at it!!!

Well........you got me on that one.

#90 02-13-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

I dont think you are bitter at all....

Now let me tell you the side of that little nuclei that are doing everything. Friend, I am in that group in my church. You know what? When we get done cleaning up after the rest of the church came, enjoyed, then left. we sit there TIERD wondering why those enjoyers didnt pitch in. The fact is, that small group that is doing everything arent doing it because they dont want you to have fun. They are doing it, because you arent.

Dont blame me for getting to church early to get things set up, pray and get ready for the day. Dont blame me for spending hours each week prepairing to teach a sunday school lesson. Blame yourself for not telling the pastor you need a job. Blame yourself for letting someone else clean the bathrooms.

the reason that small group of people are the "inner circle" is because they are the ones the Pastor KNOWS will get the job done. If you arent in that group, there is a better than zero chance, you havent joined in, showed up, stayed untill the lights got turned out.

You didnt go to the Pastor and ASK if you could cut the grass, teach a class or help with a dinner.

well I just dumped on you. Im sorry. make yourself available and before long, you will be longing for a pew and wondering why those other folk are just sitting there enjoying when you are working.

This is true! I worked very hard before I left for my two years of turmoil...I don't know if I will ever be that involved again...I got used up...my pastor says almost every Sunday if you want a job in the church there are many things to do..just come to him and he will find something for you to do....it takes a willing servants heart to be used...God wants a willing heart! I love my church family, my pastor, and I will get involved slowly and selectively.