Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by TalkLady
CC1, I added to my post while you were typing this...Please reread after my additions. No, I don't think she was justified. No, I don't think that sentence was appropriate. No, as far as custody, I think all of that should be supervised visits with the grandparents.
TalkLady,
I understand what you are saying. You are correct that emotional / psychological abuse should not be discounted in any case.
I appreciate you clarifying your position in your post and it makes perfect sense to me.
I am just a hard core law and order guy and don't accept emotional abuse as an excuse for murder. Divorce yes, Murder no!!
I have had personal experience within my extended family structure with a woman enduring psychological abuse from a husband. She showed up hysterical on our doorstep one Christmas Eve and I had to go with her and my wife to her home the next day to get her things as she moved out.
In that case her pastor had warned her not to rush into marriage with this man but she would not listen to anybody. I literally had a knife in my coat pocket when we went for her to get her things because her husband had taken her pistol. Sure enough the husband cornered me and started trying to talk to me and act like the woman was crazy. I cut him off, looked him in the eye and told him I knew this was not the first time with this woman AND that I also knew it had happened with his first two or three wives (I forget now how many it was). He had a shocked look on his face and when he saw my eyes he just backed off and left us alone. I was doing a lot of silent praying that day!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by CC1
TalkLady,
I understand what you are saying. You are correct that emotional / psychological abuse should not be discounted in any case.
I appreciate you clarifying your position in your post and it makes perfect sense to me.
I am just a hard core law and order guy and don't accept emotional abuse as an excuse for murder. Divorce yes, Murder no!!
I have had personal experience within my extended family structure with a woman enduring psychological abuse from a husband. She showed up hysterical on our doorstep one Christmas Eve and I had to go with her and my wife to her home the next day to get her things as she moved out.
In that case her pastor had warned her not to rush into marriage with this man but she would not listen to anybody. I literally had a knife in my coat pocket when we went for her to get her things because her husband had taken her pistol. Sure enough the husband cornered me and started trying to talk to me and act like the woman was crazy. I cut him off, looked him in the eye and told him I knew this was not the first time with this woman AND that I also knew it had happened with his first two or three wives (I forget now how many it was). He had a shocked look on his face and when he saw my eyes he just backed off and left us alone. I was doing a lot of silent praying that day!
Whoah...I take back everything I said on that other post. You were absolutely right and Ron was wrong, wrong, wrong.
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Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by tstew
Whoah...I take back everything I said on that other post. You were absolutely right and Ron was wrong, wrong, wrong.
LOL!!! I was a lot skinnier and faster then. Now you could just distract me with a snickers bar.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
This makes me sick! Some of you know that I live 15 miles from where this happened - the same county.
There are mixed feelings around here about all this, but the majority of the folks are appalled that she got off with a slap on the wrist. I have also heard that in the recent months, initial sympathy that Mary's super star legal team managed to generate has waned.
She would not have wanted me on that jury. And in case it's not obvious yet, I for one, am disgusted that she got custody of her children.
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