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Old 06-14-2010, 07:51 PM
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Re: Holy Ghost 101: Bernard, Godwin, Borat, Kinzie

LOL thats the first time I have seen that video and that was too funny...what made it so funny was I just heard the same lalalalalalalala tongues in the video that I heard this past Sunday...
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Don't you have to be a believer and then backslid before you can become reprobate?
Well, I'm not sure.

Who is he talking about in Romans 1:20? "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: (21) Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened"

He says he is debtor to both the Greeks, Barbarians, wise and unwise. Romans 1:14.

In Romans 1, is he speaking of only the saved that do not know God or glorify Him as God? Or is he speaking to everyone as seeing the invisible things of him from creation of the world where no one has an excuse?

Whoever he is speaking of, He turns them over to a reprobate mind because they do not retain (hold) Him in their knowledge in Romans 1:28.

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Gill says: That is, they had an acquaintance with the existence and many of the perfections of one God. That many of the philosophers of Greece and Rome had a knowledge of one God, there can be no doubt.

They glorified him not as God - They did not “honor” him as God. This was the true source of their abominations. To glorify him “as God” is to regard with proper reverence all his perfections and laws; to venerate his name, his power, his holiness, and presence, etc. As they were not inclined to do this, so they were given over to their own vain and wicked desires. Sinners are not willing to give honor to God, as God. They are not pleased with his perfections; and therefore the mind becomes fixed on other objects, and the heart gives free indulgence to its own sinful desires. A willingness to honor God as God - to reverence, love, and obey him, would effectually restrain people from sin.
Not sure the writer is talking only about the saved who backslid.

I was also noticing that "knew" in Romans 1:21 is not as intense in the knowing as "knew" would be in Colossians 1:6 "Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth:"

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I grew up going to camp meeting there and to the youth camps. Crowd looks a lot smaller now than it did back in the day. Poor Jason Dillon was right in the middle of it all.

But yeah, the clip actually makes them look better than many services I have seen.
I remember those days Delta.................Looks a lot calmer to me to!!

That was the last year I was at MS. Camp. I missed that night though.

I remember people coming to church that Sunday hooping and holering
over some filmmaker getting the Holy Ghost!

Then the movie came out.................OOPS there it is!! Or Was!!!
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I remember those days Delta.................Looks a lot calmer to me to!!

That was the last year I was at MS. Camp. I missed that night though.

I remember people coming to church that Sunday hooping and holering
over some filmmaker getting the Holy Ghost!


Then the movie came out.................OOPS there it is!! Or Was!!!
So, PO was right!
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I remember those days Delta.................Looks a lot calmer to me to!!

That was the last year I was at MS. Camp. I missed that night though.

I remember people coming to church that Sunday hooping and holering
over some filmmaker getting the Holy Ghost!

Then the movie came out.................OOPS there it is!! Or Was!!!
Yeah, I thought it was very calm. Maybe it was a day service.
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Wow - - I think they have a point here:

"Other targets are not so fair, as when Borat interrupts a Pentecostal service, just as the sacred gift of tongues is descending on them. Truly this film is the sin against the Holy Ghost. It also reveals just how cowardly the film makers are. They would not have dared to film and ridicule Kazakh Muslims in prayer with their foreheads on the ground and their arses in the air, because it would have led to violence and even murder, not by the Kazakhs themselves, who are far from being fanatics, but by Arabs, Somalis, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, all willing to kill to avenge a slight to the honour of the Prophet. They would probably also have used Baron Cohen's Jewishness as an excuse for some anti-Semitic outrage. They are like that.

The Pentecostals by contrast are peaceable folk, many of them are even pacifists, a doctrine unique to Protestants and Hindus. Have you ever heard of a Muslim pacifist? Or come to that of a Roman Catholic or Greek or Russian Orthodox one? No, the cowardly film makers stick to soft targets. They would not have dared to interrupt a Roman Catholic service at the moment of the elevation of what people like them call the magic biscuit. The Roman Catholic church is a powerful corporation that can exercise great censorship (look what happened in Britain to the TV series Popetown. Twentieth Century Fox would never have been willing to stand up to all the boycotts and picketing that would have ensued. Hollywood has never escaped from the stranglehold of the heirs of the Catholic Legion of Decency. So the cowardly bas*** stick to the Pentecostals; they are a humble and powerless people whom it is safe to kick."

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Pacifists? Pentecostals? Uh... maybe 4 decades ago. Most now wear American Flag T's, dress their kids in Army garb, flaunt their Support the Troops stickers and would be happy if America bombed all the Arabs. Does that sort of nail the Evangelical and Pentecostal culture? Let's be honest.
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Pacifists? Pentecostals? Uh... maybe 4 decades ago. Most now wear American Flag T's, dress their kids in Army garb, flaunt their Support the Troops stickers and would be happy if America bombed all the Arabs. Does that sort of nail the Evangelical and Pentecostal culture? Let's be honest.
One on FB yesterday openly advocated a militia movement (because it's in the Constitution, duh) to thwart the Obama socialist agenda ...

I think he posts here. Very Christlike and constitutional (?).
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One on FB yesterday openly advocated a militia movement (because it's in the Constitution, duh) to thwart the Obama socialist agenda ...

I think he posts here. Very Christlike and constitutional (?).
Well, it is my understanding that the reason we are given the right to bear arms by our Constitution is to protect ourselves against our government if it becomes too large or too intrusive.
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Pacifists? Pentecostals? Uh... maybe 4 decades ago. Most now wear American Flag T's, dress their kids in Army garb, flaunt their Support the Troops stickers and would be happy if America bombed all the Arabs. Does that sort of nail the Evangelical and Pentecostal culture? Let's be honest.
Okay. Honestly? No.

The "flag" thing maybe - the "bomb the Arabs" and presumably anybody else with extreme caprice, definitely NOT.

And why does the appearance of a "Support the Troops" ribbon magnet necessitate the word "flaunt?"
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