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11-15-2017, 06:57 PM
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Re: Christmas is pagan
Esaias,
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...you are committing SPIRITUAL FORNICATION, HARLOTRY, and ADULTERY against your Saviour.
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The apostle declared that participating in religious customs puts you in fellowship with the GOD SERVED BY THOSE RITES. The heathen customs are DEMONIC. Participation in heathen religious customs puts you in fellowship with DEMONS. Christians CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. You cannot partake both of the Lord's table, and the table of demons. to put it simply, if you partake of the table of demons, you are cut off from the Lord's table. You cut off your fellowship with Christ.
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You CANNOT BE SAVED while continuing to maintain fellowship with demons, darkness, and idolatry.
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It can certainly be difficult to abandon long held traditions and practices. When we became convicted years ago to separate ourselves from pagan customs, it was difficult at first. Peer pressure is an incredibly powerful thing. We had to listen to relatives scold us for denying our children the fun of Halloween and Christmas. We had professing Christians scold us for not wanting to honour Jesus' birth. We were mocked and reproached. It took some time to wean our family off of these things. But by the grace of God we were freed from these pagan attachments.
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Does this mean that before you and your family were "convicted years ago" you, your wife, and your children, were spiritually fornicating harlots and adulterers against the Savior, who practiced demonic heathen customs that put you all in fellowship with demons, making you all cut off from the Lord's table and fellowship with Christ, who couldn't be saved while you were fellowshipping with demons, darkness, and idolatry?
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11-15-2017, 07:31 PM
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Re: Christmas is pagan
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
Esaias,
Does this mean that before you and your family were "convicted years ago" you, your wife, and your children, were spiritually fornicating harlots and adulterers against the Savior, who practiced demonic heathen customs that put you all in fellowship with demons, making you all cut off from the Lord's table and fellowship with Christ, who couldn't be saved while you were fellowshipping with demons, darkness, and idolatry?
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Yes, and I thank the Lord for saving us from the vain conversation inherited by tradition from our ancestors.
Last edited by Esaias; 11-15-2017 at 07:34 PM.
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11-15-2017, 09:40 PM
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Re: Christmas is pagan
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
Esaias,
Does this mean that before you and your family were "convicted years ago" you, your wife, and your children, were spiritually fornicating harlots and adulterers against the Savior, who practiced demonic heathen customs that put you all in fellowship with demons, making you all cut off from the Lord's table and fellowship with Christ, who couldn't be saved while you were fellowshipping with demons, darkness, and idolatry?
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Man, that is pretty intense.
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11-16-2017, 06:08 AM
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Re: Christmas is pagan
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11-16-2017, 06:13 AM
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Re: Christmas is pagan
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Yes, and I thank the Lord for saving us from the vain conversation inherited by tradition from our ancestors.
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So, are you like the Jehovah's Witnesses who don't celebrate any holidays?
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11-16-2017, 06:17 AM
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Re: Christmas is pagan
I'm interested in what anyone has to say about how the choice of choosing December 25th in relation to the celebration of Christ's birth was actually related to a calendar dispute and the ancient Jewish belief in integral age...because the date has little to do with paganism.
Calculating Christmas
The Story Behind December 25
by William J. Tighe
http://www.touchstonemag.com/archive...id=16-10-012-v
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11-16-2017, 07:20 AM
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Re: Christmas is pagan
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I always knew he lived in Narnia and not the North Pole!!
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11-16-2017, 11:23 AM
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Re: Christmas is pagan
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
Does this mean that before you and your family were "convicted years ago" you, your wife, and your children, were spiritually fornicating harlots and adulterers against the Savior, who practiced demonic heathen customs that put you all in fellowship with demons, making you all cut off from the Lord's table and fellowship with Christ, who couldn't be saved while you were fellowshipping with demons, darkness, and idolatry?
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Yes, and I thank the Lord for saving us from the vain conversation inherited by tradition from our ancestors.
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It's amazing you were ever saved when practicing such vile, evil idolatry.
Here's what it boils down to Esaias. I have no issue with you taking exception to the celebration of Christmas/Easter/etc. I've already stated that I have no interest in such things myself, so I can certainly relate to the sentiment even if I don't necessarily agree with your argument. Having said that, we're commanded to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling.
We must each individually check our spirits against God's and determine for ourselves if we're in His will or not. Don't be so quick to condemn your fellow brethren to hell for not being where you are. Paul stated that what is sin to some is not sin to others. There is such a thing as context.
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Sometimes hidden dangers spring on us suddenly. Those are out of our control. But when one can see the danger, and then refuses to arrest , all in the name of "God is in control", they are forfeiting God given, preventive opportunities.
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11-16-2017, 01:17 PM
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Re: Christmas is pagan
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Yes, and I thank the Lord for saving us from the vain conversation inherited by tradition from our ancestors.
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Ok. Thank you for your honesty.
A follow-up:
Did this conviction settle into your hearts, and did the time of your obedience to it, occur before or after you received the Holy Spirit and were baptized in the name of Jesus?
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11-16-2017, 01:25 PM
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Re: Christmas is pagan
Is it time for a Christmas thread?
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