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05-02-2015, 09:33 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword
You are absolutely right, Jesus did say that the angels in heaven don't procreate, however that statement by Jesus might not represent the fallen angels.
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"...whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good."
There are a few things you need to consider:
(1) Everything in the natural realm has "...seed in itself..."; therefore able to reproduce or, in the
case of man, able to procreate. Angels have no need to procreate because they are eternal.
(2) There is no evidence that God created two types of angels; one eternal, another for procreation.
(3) What you are expressing is not scriptural, but by your own admission, only YOUR OPINION!
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05-02-2015, 09:40 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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Originally Posted by thephnxman
(3) What you are expressing is not scriptural, but by your own admission, only YOUR OPINION!
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I have never admitted that., where did you find such admission?
Actually quite the contrary,
I have many times stated that we do have many scriptures that could be interpreted in that manner.
and no, it is not only my opinion, but it is actually the opinion of many learned men.
So I have no idea how you came up with that point, you probably made an assumption without ever bothering to read my writings.
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05-03-2015, 07:19 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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Originally Posted by mfblume
I absolutely and completely disagree with that. It's not a contrast of angels fallen or unfallen. It's immortals versus mortals. IMHO.  So, I would only repeat that as often as we chat about it. Time to bow out. But, again, I know this is only my opinion. |
Nope...it's mine too 
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05-03-2015, 08:46 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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Nope...it's mine too |
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05-04-2015, 07:46 AM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
well then, i'll ask again how you might interpret Jude 6? Regardless of whether i might agree with it or not, he says "Angels." Do you guys just put a different context on this, or what?
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05-04-2015, 09:09 AM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
The left their first "estate"(dwellingplace and its' benefits)....
Not first "state"(state of being).
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05-04-2015, 09:10 AM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
(First "STATE")....that is how the demon babiers view this passage.
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05-04-2015, 09:24 AM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
ok, but Jude goes further, and describes how, @ "7just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire." So, i read this "Sodom and Gomorrah did just what the angels did, in indulging in sexual immorality..." but you must have come to a different interpretation here. what is it? It is all very well to relate it to Sodom and Gomorrah, or humans, but how do you relate it to the "angels" named here?
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05-04-2015, 09:54 AM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
It only speaks of 2 separate groups in their sinful fall.
It no way implies the demons had sex with humans.
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05-04-2015, 09:56 AM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
Shazeep, that version or commentary is biased towards the demon baby doctrine you used(BTW)
Last edited by Sean; 05-04-2015 at 10:03 AM.
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