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Old 09-03-2007, 12:13 PM
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Anthony Langston [NJ], UPCI minister and NCO member will be launching a new book entitled "Holier than God". I can't imagine he will be w/ the fellowship much longer.
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This man will not be able to reach those he wants to "save" from the big bad wolf simply because he has just blown the bridge up.
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:14 PM
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This man will not be able to reach those he wants to "save" from the big bad wolf simply because he has just blown the bridge up.
I don't think he made such a claim ... hmm.
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:16 PM
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Are Galatians 2 and Acts 15 missing in your Bible?

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Gal 2:11-14
11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
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5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
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I am truly rolling on the floor laughing at this!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:17 PM
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I don't think he made such a claim ... hmm.
Why else would he write what he wrote, except to expose what he saw as error. And you do not expose error just for the sake of exposing it. You expose it in an attempt to show others so they can be free.
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:20 PM
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Are Galatians 2 and Acts 15 missing in your Bible?
Sorry,

but you have posted with such venom and hatred for so long that I take nothing you post seriously. You have castrated your effectiveness to minister anything into my life. I just hope that your attitude doesn't bleed over into the lives of the church around you.
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Maybe the idea is to blow up the bridge with the wolf on it.

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This man will not be able to reach those he wants to "save" from the big bad wolf simply because he has just blown the bridge up.
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:22 PM
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Sorry,

but you have posted with such venom and hatred for so long that I take nothing you post seriously. You have castrated your effectiveness to minister anything into my life. I just hope that your attitude doesn't bleed over into the lives of the church around you.
TV I didn't know you were a eunuch?
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:24 PM
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TV I didn't know you were a eunuch?
Now THAT is funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Now THAT is funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just as a sidenote.... a corn fed steer makes much better steaks than a corn fed bull(y).

But either way - someone dies.
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The problem with this is that I have bypassed an essential process for them and replaced that process with product! Now I feel accomplished. I have product. I'm affirmed when my appraisers approve of the product. As a leader I am celebrated. But the people haven't transformed! No my friend, they have merely conformed! They did not come to it gradually and personally through the relational process with God. Their chance to "work out their own salvation" was stolen from them by the impatient hands of leadership, leaders more interested in bottom lines than spiritual growth.
This is the problem I have with across the board "holiness standards" as well. There is no allowance for Holy Ghost conviction nor for each believer in their walk with God to have personal convictions. The law of standards is made across the board for all when the Bible simply says MODESTY.
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