How to overcome sexual failure-John Piper

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

"having an issue" makes you unclean "until the even". How can you enter into the presence of God unclean?

3Who may ascend into the hill of the LORD?
And who may stand in His holy place?
4He who has clean hands and a pure heart,
Who has not lifted up his soul to falsehood
And has not sworn deceitfully.
5He shall receive a blessing from the LORD
And righteousness from the God of his salvation.

Agreed but again how do you equate this verse w/ the extrabiblical teaching to the prohibition on church days?

[Dedicated Mind]

DA your quotes are meaningless. God did not want ANIMAL sacrifices as a license to sin, He wanted obedience to His law from the heart. This has nothing to do with PERSONAL sacrifice such as abstaining from adultery, fornication and uncleaness. (How liberal are you?)

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

DA your quotes are meaningless. God did not want ANIMAL sacrifices as a license to sin, He wanted obedience to His law from the heart. This has nothing to do with PERSONAL sacrifice such as abstaining from adultery, fornication and uncleaness.

Who is talking about immoral sin? ... you made the statement that in order to conform to God's Word it is best to abstain from one's spouse on church days .... when the bible celebrates marital relations.

Furthermore ... not all of us see obedience as sacrifice. Apparently you feel abstaining from immoral sin is PERSONAL sacrifice?

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

3Who may ascend into the hill of the LORD?
And who may stand in His holy place?
4He who has clean hands and a pure heart,
Who has not lifted up his soul to falsehood
And has not sworn deceitfully.
5He shall receive a blessing from the LORD
And righteousness from the God of his salvation.

Agreed but again how do you equate this verse w/ the extrabiblical teaching to the prohibition on church days?

I think "clean hands" are related to the Lev 15 citation.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

I think "clean hands" are related to the Lev 15 citation.

And let's add to that one ... James 4:8

(A)Draw near to God and He will draw near to you (B)Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and (C)purify your hearts, you (D)double-minded.

I still dont see the parallel ... you seek to make.

First, please expound on what the Leviticus verse means to you.
Second... how does your interpretation equate to not entering the house of the Lord w/ clean hands and a pure heart?
Third ... does this prohibition make you holier ... and more apt to "be in the Spirit" only at the church building?

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Who is talking about immoral sin? ... you made the statement that in order to conform to God's Word it is best to abstain from one's spouse on church days .... when the bible celebrates marital relations.

Furthermore ... not all of us see obedience as sacrifice. Apparently you feel abstaining from immoral sin is PERSONAL sacrifice?

I do believe abstaining from immoral sin and the lusts of the flesh is a personal sacrifice. Is it easy for you?

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