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Old 02-26-2007, 11:38 AM
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Got it off Dictionary.com...I don't think it's such a big deal.
It's not Bible.
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:42 AM
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I have seen both. God is not limited, we are the ones that limit Him.
I'm not saying that God can't in either situation. What I'm saying that in my experience I haven't seen the real thing.

And there was no limit placed on God by me. It just didn't happen....
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:21 PM
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I know this sounds bad, but I've been around and heard enough over the years to be very skeptic of any prophecy.

If someone were to prophecy to me, I would blow it off unless God gave me a peace about it and confirmed it. Instead of generalities, I would like specifics.

"You will have a great trial come upon you soon, and if you'll put your faith in the Lord, he'll bring you through it!" This has no specifics!

I have great trials on a weekly basis, and the Lord has always brought me through them! I ALREADY KNOW that God will bring me through any trial that comes my way. I don't think I need a prophecy to confirm that! A drunkard can come up to me and prophecy in generalities.

Now, if someone were to come to me and tell me things that the Lord has revealed to them that nobody knew about, they would have my attention!
This is pretty much how I feel about it.
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:25 PM
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I know this sounds bad, but I've been around and heard enough over the years to be very skeptic of any prophecy.

If someone were to prophecy to me, I would blow it off unless God gave me a peace about it and confirmed it. Instead of generalities, I would like specifics.

"You will have a great trial come upon you soon, and if you'll put your faith in the Lord, he'll bring you through it!" This has no specifics!

I have great trials on a weekly basis, and the Lord has always brought me through them! I ALREADY KNOW that God will bring me through any trial that comes my way. I don't think I need a prophecy to confirm that! A drunkard can come up to me and prophecy in generalities.

Now, if someone were to come to me and tell me things that the Lord has revealed to them that nobody knew about, they would have my attention!
I asked a man of God to pray with me years ago about buying another vehicle as the one I had had a lot of miles and I was not working at the time and my husband had gotten a promotion which meant he was making less money since he no longer got paid for his overtime.

We prayed and the Lord showed him a large white car and then he showed him a small blue truck. He said I am not saying that you will get a white car but that is what the Lord is showing me.

As it turned out, I bought a White Town Car and not to long after that my husband totaled out our car in a tropical storm and bought a blue Ranger truck.

So everything the man of God said came to pass exactly as God showed him.

I do believe in Prophecy.
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:38 PM
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I know this sounds bad, but I've been around and heard enough over the years to be very skeptic of any prophecy.

If someone were to prophecy to me, I would blow it off unless God gave me a peace about it and confirmed it. Instead of generalities, I would like specifics.

"You will have a great trial come upon you soon, and if you'll put your faith in the Lord, he'll bring you through it!" This has no specifics!

I have great trials on a weekly basis, and the Lord has always brought me through them! I ALREADY KNOW that God will bring me through any trial that comes my way. I don't think I need a prophecy to confirm that! A drunkard can come up to me and prophecy in generalities.

Now, if someone were to come to me and tell me things that the Lord has revealed to them that nobody knew about, they would have my attention!
No, it doesn't sound bad at all...

Really, Felicity hit it when she said that there is a difference between foretelling and forthtelling.

Foretelling would be a specific prophecy...by specific I mean, if someone says that it's going to snow on my house in February, that's not prophetic. I live in Michigan and it's almost a given that it's gonna snow on my house sometime in February.

But if they say that at 12:03 am on February 29th it will snow, they're a prophet...if it snows before or later, they missed it.

So yes, foretelling is specific.

Forthtelling, IMHO, is a confirmation of a word already present in my inner beings. I do not believe God will give you a word He has not already dealt with me about, in some form or fashion. It may be expounded in a more and perfect way, but it will be more or less the same word.
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:41 PM
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There has to be a real before there can ever be a counterfeit.
Exactly! And even if somebody makes a mistake or tells me something that's off the wall it doesn't diminish my faith in God or His ability or the fact that these gifts are authentic and still very much a reality in the Church. Like I've said so many times, my faith is in God - not man, but God uses man.

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Old 02-26-2007, 01:42 PM
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No, it doesn't sound bad at all...

Really, Felicity hit it when she said that there is a difference between foretelling and forthtelling.

Foretelling would be a specific prophecy...by specific I mean, if someone says that it's going to snow on my house in February, that's not prophetic. I live in Michigan and it's almost a given that it's gonna snow on my house sometime in February.

But if they say that at 12:03 am on February 29th it will snow, they're a prophet...if it snows before or later, they missed it.

So yes, foretelling is specific.

Forthtelling, IMHO, is a confirmation of a word already present in my inner beings. I do not believe God will give you a word He has not already dealt with me about, in some form or fashion. It may be expounded in a more and perfect way, but it will be more or less the same word.
I agree with all you said except the bold part. Because you are given a specific date doesn't eliminate other dates, IMO. Just as long as it snows on that date is all that matters to me.

Even though you live where it snows often can you say now what day it will snow next? I doubt it. Just that it will most likely snow.

HOWEVER, if you lived here in the South and you said it was going to snow, you wouldn't have to give a date, make sure the year is right.
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:42 PM
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Exactly! And even if somebody makes a mistake or tells me something that's off the wall it doesn't diminish my faith in God or His ability or the fact that these gifts are authentic and still very much a reality in the Church. Like I've said so many times, my faith is in God - not man, but God uses man.

Amen!
I agree.

And I might add, sometimes we miss interpretate what was said.
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:44 PM
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Exactly! And even if somebody makes a mistake or tells me something that's off the wall it doesn't diminish my faith in God or His ability or the fact that these gifts are authentic and still very much a reality in the Church. Like I've said so many times, my faith is in God - not man, but God uses man.

Amen!
Exactly!!
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:50 PM
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True story...

During an all night prayer meeting one brother walked up to a sister and told her that the Lord showed him that she was going to have another baby.

When she told her husband what she had been told he calmly stated (with a slow methodic country drawl) "I'm just glad he's a truck driver and not a prophet.
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