End Time Revival? Prove it...

[TyronePalmer]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

If an end time revival is supposed to mean that we "all live happily ever after on the Earth" and things just continue as they are count me out. I believe in no such thing.

I believe the end time Church will go through the great tribulation. All of it. It is going to get MUCH WORSE.

The move of God I believe in will be God using ministry and judgment and sovereign events during that time to simply bring the Church up to the standard that was always meant to be.

Many of his people will awaken to the lateness of the hour and the dire circumstances they are facing. They will turn with all their desire to YAH. He will supply their needs or give them grace to die for him, either way they win.

Glorious!!!! Now that's what I'm talking about brother Mike!

The Lord told me what's coming "Will Be WORSE Than Your Worst Nightmare" which is exactly why Jesus said in scripture, if the time of the great tribulation is not cut short NO FLESH would be saved!

[Esaias]

Anybody else want to take a crack at showing from the Scriptures that there will be a great end time revival at some point in the future?

[Apostolic1ness]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Anybody else want to take a crack at showing from the Scriptures that there will be a great end time revival at some point in the future?

Rev. 7:9-14

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

Rev. 7:9-14

Revelation 7:9-14
(9) After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
(10) And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
(11) And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
(12) Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
(13) And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
(14) And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

This shows a great multitude who have "come out of great tribulation". This covers EVERYBODY through all generations who have been saved through the blood of Christ. It says nothing about any end time revival.

Acts 14:21-22
(21) And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had taught many, they returned again to Lystra, and to Iconium, and Antioch,
(22) Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

All the saints must enter God's kingdom through "much tribulation".

[Apostolic1ness]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Revelation 7:9-14
(9) After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
(10) And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
(11) And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
(12) Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
(13) And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
(14) And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

This shows a great multitude who have "come out of great tribulation". This covers EVERYBODY through all generations who have been saved through the blood of Christ. It says nothing about any end time revival.

Acts 14:21-22
(21) And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had taught many, they returned again to Lystra, and to Iconium, and Antioch,
(22) Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

All the saints must enter God's kingdom through "much tribulation".

if we were to consider the "last days" as "end time" then yes great revival has swept the earth beginning with the fulfillment of Joel 2:28 in Acts 2

[Scott Pitta]

End time revival is much promoted, but nowhere found in the Bible.

[Apostolic1ness]

For the Pretribulation believers the end time is now and then and anytime and was in every generation and if not today maybe tomorrow. As Jesus could come at any time.

I might be better to define what is meant by "end time".

to some as stated before, the "end time" started with the Acts2 "Last days" statement so to them we are living in the end time and have been experiencing revival for nearly 2000 years.

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

End time revival is much promoted, but nowhere found in the Bible.

Not as it has been promoted. The only biblical sense of endtime revival is that which has been taking place for the last 2000 years.

[1ofthechosen]

I believe this is what Jesus is alluding to in most of Matthew 13.
James 5:7-8 "Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain. [8] Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh."

Because it will happen until 1 Thessalonians 2:7 is fufilled "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way." When the Holy Ghost is withdrawn and the church is caught away, "And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming."

But that won't happen "until He receive the early and latter rain." There is a end time revival I can see it in scripture. Although it's like our doctrine of speaking in tongues, as the sign of the infilling of the Holy Ghost. It may not state it explicitly but it alludes to it in multiple places.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

I believe this is what Jesus is alluding to in most of Matthew 13.
James 5:7-8 "Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain. [8] Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh."

Because it will happen until 1 Thessalonians 2:7 is fufilled "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way." When the Holy Ghost is withdrawn and the church is caught away, "And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming."

But that won't happen "until He receive the early and latter rain." There is a end time revival I can see it in scripture. Although it's like our doctrine of speaking in tongues, as the sign of the infilling of the Holy Ghost. It may not state it explicitly but it alludes to it in multiple places.

The doctrine of tongues as the initial evidence of the Holy Ghost baptism is explicitly stated in the Bible. The doctrine of inspired utterance or speaking as the universal and normative sign or evidence of receiving the Spirit is explicitly stated in both the new testament and the old.

There is no end time revival in Scripture. You say you can see it, well, where? Where does it say end time revival just before Jesus comes?

As for early and latter rain, according to Bible prophecy, BOTH were fulfilled on Pentecost -

Joel 2:23-28
(23) Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.
(24) And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the fats shall overflow with wine and oil.
(25) And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.
(26) And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.
(27) And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.
(28) And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

Notice, the latter rain comes "in the first month", according to the prophecy. The first month is Abib, and is the time of Passover, when Christ was crucified and resurrected. He is the "former rain, and the latter rain, in the first month". Rain provides the conditions for seed to germinate and grow, and waters existing crops. That is what Christ provides through His death and resurrection.

But notice, "it shall come to pass AFTERWARDS"... and then the famous prophecy of Pentecost. This means Pentecost comes AFTER the former and the latter rain (BOTH!!!!) have been given!

The idea there is a "latter rain revival" yet in our future is unfounded and is a misuse of Scripture. By the way, do y'all know the early Oneness Pentecostals believed they were experiencing the latter rain outpouring of the Spirit? They proclaimed the latter rain was falling - in the early 1900s! 100 years ago!

Another point to consider, is that the latter rain actually comes FIRST, before the former rain! The latter rain comes in the first month, whereas the former or early rain comes about six months earlier - in the 6th or 7th month! This means that the former rain actually comes LATER IN THE YEAR ON THE CALENDAR than the latter rain! Interestingly, this places the former rain in the general time period of TABERNACLES. And Christ was born about this same time (and truly, He was God tabernacling with us, see John 1:14 where "dwelt" is literally "tabernacled"). So His birth at the time close to the former or early rain, followed by His death and resurrection at the time of the latter rain in the first month (Abib, Passover time), and THEN AFTERWARDS the Spirit is poured out (Pentecost), all show that the entire end time "latter rain revival" concept is completely unbiblical.