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02-14-2020, 05:33 PM
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Re: Trojan Horse
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02-14-2020, 05:37 PM
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Re: Trojan Horse
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The Manguns have bigger issues than TBN.
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02-14-2020, 06:13 PM
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Re: Trojan Horse
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I'm not going to say that ALL Trinitarians are nasty to us and don't like us Apostolics. I've not found that to be true. Certainly, they won't agree with some doctrinal points, but not all of them present themselves with a hostile or untouchable personality. Most of them that I've actually discussed things with personally generally have the "agree to disagree" attitude.
Sometimes I think they're abrasive, defensive, or nasty because of how WE Apostolics present the Truth. Who's going to listen to someone that's being cocky, or stern without any compassion on their salvation or soul.
I generally try to find some common ground and build on that. There are some things we'll agree with Trinitarians on, so I try to start there. Once I've won them (for the lack of a better word), I try to ease in some doctrinal points they're missing.
We can't reach someone we've offended. I've never seen it happen.
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Really?
So, it is once again our fault.
Maybe you should call Dr James White's office and ask his people what they think of us.
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02-14-2020, 06:27 PM
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Re: Trojan Horse
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Really?
So, it is once again our fault.
Maybe you should call Dr James White's office and ask his people what they think of us.
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Why can't we all just drink water and drive on?
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02-14-2020, 06:32 PM
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Re: Trojan Horse
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Originally Posted by Holy Roller
I generally try to find some common ground and build on that. There are some things we'll agree with Trinitarians on, so I try to start there. Once I've won them (for the lack of a better word), I try to ease in some doctrinal points they're missing.
We can't reach someone we've offended. I've never seen it happen.
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Really, how many hardcore Trinitarians have you dealt with and brought them into the church? Again, I guess all the dyed in the wool Trinitarians must of moved from Brigadoon to South Florida. Because the common ground for these guys and gals is that you get out of your heresy of denying the Trinity.
You know who lives just a few miles south of me? E. Calvin Beisner, who wrote this little gem "Jesus Only Churches." D. James Kennedy's Presbyterians Coral Ridge church is right down the block on Federal Hwy. E. Calvin Beisner taught at the Church's Knox Theological Seminary from 2000 to 2008. Not failing to let the students know about the evils of the Jesus Only people. When I say Trinitarian I'm not talking about Joe Palooka who can't tell his right hand from his left when it comes to the godhead. I'm talking about those who know and believe that their god is THREE working as a unified effort.
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02-14-2020, 06:36 PM
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Re: Trojan Horse
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Why can't we all just drink water and drive on?
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Let's just focus on being lovable and not even telling them where we go to church. Because when we tell them what kind of church we attend, they get a look like a Mule eating briers.
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02-14-2020, 08:43 PM
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Re: Trojan Horse
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Why not? He preached prayer and the Name of Jesus to more people in a few minutes that most could in an entire lifetime.
My brother was asked to preach at a spanish-speaking AOG church. You'd probably say he had no business preaching there.
But he went and preached Jesus Name and you must be born again.
Jesus spoke with a Samaritan woman.
He had dinner with a tax collector at his home.
I don't believe God was displeased with AM.
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I’m fine preaching in an AoG if God says do it. But AM didn’t go on the TBN program to preach. He went to smile and hug the trinitarians and say hey we’re all in this together. Let’s have a conversation as brothers for the world to see. Let’s fellowship in front of the camera so everyone knows we’re all the same. He was one of the leaders in the UPCi for televangelism and I guess now he’s showing them how it’s done. Whatever.
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02-14-2020, 08:44 PM
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Re: Trojan Horse
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Let's just focus on being lovable and not even telling them where we go to church. Because when we tell them what kind of church we attend, they get a look like a Mule eating briers.
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Right.
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02-14-2020, 08:58 PM
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Re: Trojan Horse
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Let's just focus on being lovable and not even telling them where we go to church. Because when we tell them what kind of church we attend, they get a look like a Mule eating briers.
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It's like liberals killing their opponents because those bad people aren't "tolerant enough".
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02-15-2020, 05:36 AM
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Re: Trojan Horse
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Originally Posted by consapente89
I’m fine preaching in an AoG if God says do it. But AM didn’t go on the TBN program to preach. He went to smile and hug the trinitarians and say hey we’re all in this together. Let’s have a conversation as brothers for the world to see. Let’s fellowship in front of the camera so everyone knows we’re all the same. He was one of the leaders in the UPCi for televangelism and I guess now he’s showing them how it’s done. Whatever.
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I agree. Ill go and preach for AOG any day of the week if God says, and I believe a lot of the men on here will do the same. 2
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