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11-06-2016, 11:39 PM
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Re: The Bible is not the Word
Shaz, you are doing the very thing that you are accusing Bro. Blume and others of doing... of being blind to a different way of thinking. You think we are all blind, because we don't see it your way. And I honestly have tried to understand WHAT IN THE WORLD you are trying to say, in all these different threads that you have going, and it is all as clear as MUD.
You are sitting in judgment of anyone who doesn't "see" what you see... yet you are doing a poor job of enunciating what you see, and so how can you set yourself up on this little platform and try to teach others, something you are sure we must all somehow need to see... and now you have resorted to riddles and a stream of conscious talking which adds up to a bunch of nonsense.
Don't you see how the very same judgment you are accusing others of having, you are guilty of pouring out yourself?
What gives you the right to think that YOU are right, and anyone who doesn't see the mud like you do, is wrong?
I've posted back and forth with you for years, and usually I can somewhat decipher what you are trying to say... but I'm telling you in all honesty, that your communication skills at this point have deteriorated terribly.
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11-07-2016, 06:22 AM
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Re: The Bible is not the Word
I am not accusing anyone of anything, K. I was raised on that way of thinking, and there is nothing wrong with a person thinking what they think, at the time that they are thinking it. The crime comes in refusing to face hypocrisy, when it is staring right at one. When you have been confronted with sex making babies, but you refuse to give up the Brownie Theory, because after all, sex is pretty offensive, at a certain age, huh. It is literally incomprehensible, to a kid without hormones. One does not condemn a child for thinking that babies come from mom eating a brownie, right?
My communication skills have gone out the window? Think maybe i am drinking wine in the morning? Aren't i plainly stating that i do not know what i am talking about, and that you do not need to believe like i do? I don't need you to, and i don't even want you to, ok? All i want is for you to find Word, right now. We don't have to agree on anything else. Gd and i have different beliefs. Yet we are still in agreement. And do i still have pride issues? Prolly. So then i am an idiot, so what. That does not change the truth. That is no reason to shoot the messenger. The Word is the Truth, K, and you cannot find a single passage in the Book that you cannot also find someone to argue with you about It ok.
So, "rights," "right," i don't have any of those, ok. I claim no rights; i am not right, about everything, not by a long shot. What i am is hearing Word, that is not Book, that for us can be found in Book, and this does not negate Book, Book will lead you there, if you will listen. Where is the fire, K? Is it in hell? Are you sure?
i think it has to be this way, a little step at a time, because undiluted Word would cause us to die, our minds cannot handle undiluted Word. Have a nice day K.
Last edited by shazeep; 11-07-2016 at 06:26 AM.
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11-07-2016, 08:57 AM
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Re: The Bible is not the Word
In order to rise Christ first died and was buried.
Shaz, don't excuse your nonsense as if it were God's nonsense. You take what He said in parable language completely out of context and apply it willie-billy everywhere it's never meant to be applied, and don't even apply it to the context in which it;s found. It's plain pedanitc because you attempt it worse when asked to be clear.
You feign desire to discuss word and the multitude of times I tried to get you do actually do that only found you running and refusing. It's worn out now. Give it up. YOu obviously have mental issues, no offence intended, and it explains it all.
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...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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11-07-2016, 09:33 AM
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Re: The Bible is not the Word
For people whose hearts have been unveiled by having turned them toward Christ's truth found in the bible, a breath of the life of the Spirit lifted those words off the pages and breathed them into our hearts. And they changed us from glory of something old and outdated under Moses to a glory we cannot really describe to those whose hearts remain veiled. And the same God who said, "Let there be light," Took His words in the bible and spoke light of knowledge into our dark hearts. It was when a Spirit filled preacher was anointed to give us those words that a reaction occurred in our hearts and the Seed of God took root and started growing a tree of life in us.
To not experience this from the bible preached by one filled with the Spirit is to believe what we have seen displayed here.
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...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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11-07-2016, 11:08 AM
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Re: The Bible is not the Word
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Originally Posted by mfblume
In order to rise Christ first died and was buried.
Shaz, don't excuse your nonsense as if it were God's nonsense. You take what He said in parable language completely out of context and apply it willie-billy everywhere it's never meant to be applied, and don't even apply it to the context in which it;s found. It's plain pedanitc because you attempt it worse when asked to be clear.
You feign desire to discuss word and the multitude of times I tried to get you do actually do that only found you running and refusing. It's worn out now. Give it up. YOu obviously have mental issues, no offence intended, and it explains it all.
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So, now you don't want to Bible, MB? ok
You don't have to answer my questions, either, if you are afraid. See, i can't make you do anything, can i.
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11-07-2016, 11:10 AM
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This is still that!
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Re: The Bible is not the Word
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Originally Posted by mfblume
For people whose hearts have been unveiled by having turned them toward Christ's truth found in the bible, a breath of the life of the Spirit lifted those words off the pages and breathed them into our hearts. And they changed us from glory of something old and outdated under Moses to a glory we cannot really describe to those whose hearts remain veiled. And the same God who said, "Let there be light," Took His words in the bible and spoke light of knowledge into our dark hearts. It was when a Spirit filled preacher was anointed to give us those words that a reaction occurred in our hearts and the Seed of God took root and started growing a tree of life in us.
To not experience this from the bible preached by one filled with the Spirit is to believe what we have seen displayed here.
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amen
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11-07-2016, 11:12 AM
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Re: The Bible is not the Word
Then amen. He was not lying. He was telling the truth. Wasn't he.
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Originally Posted by mfblume
For people whose hearts have been unveiled by having turned them toward Christ's truth found in the bible, a breath of the life of the Spirit lifted those words off the pages and breathed them into our hearts. And they changed us from glory of something old and outdated under Moses to a glory we cannot really describe to those whose hearts remain veiled. And the same God who said, "Let there be light," Took His words in the bible and spoke light of knowledge into our dark hearts. It was when a Spirit filled preacher was anointed to give us those words that a reaction occurred in our hearts and the Seed of God took root and started growing a tree of life in us.
To not experience this from the bible preached by one filled with the Spirit is to believe what we have seen displayed here.
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Ever been drunk in the morning, Mike?
Truth is what is breathed, from the first person in the line, of people who will all repeat the same line to each other, all the way to the back of the line. Each person after that can only breath truth, the truth as they heard it, MB.
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11-07-2016, 11:30 AM
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Re: The Bible is not the Word
What truth are YOU breathing Shaz? If you're the first one in line, what would YOU say?
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11-07-2016, 11:59 AM
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Re: The Bible is not the Word
The Truth is, the Word and the Gospel are the Truth.
And the Book was God~Breathed, to men who spoke Ancient Hebrew,
which is not spoken anymore. But i guess speaking Hebrew letters correctly
still makes the pattern of the letter in sand. But there i am guessing.
And they wrote nest, but you have a mansion to look forward to, to point at.
So, i have one guess, and all the rest is what i heard breathed.
I would also say that, in a Book full of words and Gospels, we seem to constantly be wondering what the Gospel is, how to define the gospel, threads like that can go on for pages, huh. Because Gospel is Word. And that is all Truth. Isn't It.
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11-07-2016, 12:01 PM
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Re: The Bible is not the Word
The Truth is that Father is infallible, and infallible is just another word for perfect. And the Book is a reflection; perfection, which is not quite the same thing. And you cannot name anything on earth that does not undergo change, can you. Not one thing.
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