View Poll Results: Will a man go to hell for wearing a dress
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Yes! Burn baby burn, burn
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Yes, but only to a hell reserved for cross dressers
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Maybe, Maybe not
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It depends on whether he knows it is a dress.
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Not likely, as our society evolves, it is more accepted these daze.
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No, but he will go to a heaven reserved for cross dressers
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Absolutely not, Jesus wore a dress too you know.
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06-15-2007, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Wait a minute Brother Hoover, you just started a thread saying that this forum was dead and then you complain about my post.
Brother Hoover I will answer you when you read my post in its entirety.
Thank you very much.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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LOL! Good point! Be back in a minute!!   
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06-15-2007, 08:46 PM
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Yoohooo! Did it.
Answer if you wish - It's all good. I am relaxing and chatting.
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06-15-2007, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Yoohooo! Did it.
Answer if you wish - It's all good. I am relaxing and chatting.
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You read my post? What did you think? You are not even going to give me any feedback?
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06-15-2007, 08:55 PM
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You read my post? What did you think? You are not even going to give me any feedback?
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#1. You are a gifted writer
#2. I like the plural Eldership concept.
#3. Nice to meet you. I am Oneness Pentecostal and "holiness" myself.
#4. I would be interested in knowing more about the "Puerto Rican foot"
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06-15-2007, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Yoohooo! Did it.
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The "kilt" means to "tuck it up" or even to "grid up with a belt" so we could argue the point that it's a man's garment. When we look at the man's garment with the ancient Hebrews the priest wore breeches, and their garment. These breeches were supposed to go down over the knee.
Job was told to "grid himself up like a man" and with that if a man was to do that he best have breeches on.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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06-15-2007, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
The "kilt" means to "tuck it up" or even to "grid up with a belt" so we could argue the point that it's a man's garment. When we look at the man's garment with the ancient Hebrews the priest wore breeches, and their garment. These breeches were supposed to go down over the knee.
Job was told to "grid himself up like a man" and with that if a man was to do that he best have breeches on.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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Good cause I was in the theater play once, and I was an Egyptian servant in one scene - had to wear this kilt type thingy....
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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06-15-2007, 09:02 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Brother the scripture is sure saying that a man cannot wear that which a woman wears and a woman cannot wear what a man wears. In the Greek it is very clear when placed with what is written in Timothy. I have yet to see anyone come up with anything refuting it, but that doesn't matter because when people have their mind made up not to go forward they won't. So much for making people do something.
Brother, you know good and well that there is such a thing as women's pants. Stop playing dumb. It doesn't look good on you.
Brother Rico so you studied this out and found out that God really doesn't care if people are dressed unisex? Is that what you found in your research?
You're funny, NOT!
Why do I think (just me personally, not all of America's Apostolics just me) that you have an attitude because you are so flipped over the subject.
To be honest with you, I don't really care what you think about my attitude. If you are looking for an attitude try reading back some of your posts.
It's your use of adjetives Brother Rico, like the use of the word "LIES".
If someone gets into a pulpit and preaches something that isn't true, what do you call it? I call it preaching lies.
What about Leviticus 18, can you point out to me how many things within that chapter are no longer for the Apostolic Church?
I don't have time right now to study Lev 18. I will, however ask you what you use to decide which part of the law you will obey and which part you ignore. How about the suit in your avatar? Is it mixed fabrics. If so, then that is an abomination. But wait, it's ok to ignore that part of the law but harp on another.
Then Brother Rico what are you trying to say then?
I said what I meant and meant what I said.
Brother Rico what you're saying above is that we are being lied to but you've been set free and we still have our heads in the sand. Brother Rico so what do you have that we should look into? You think we should all look like we been shot out of a canon? So when Jesus said the Pharisees looked beautiful what was He talking about? Their legs?
Anyone that gets into a pulpit and preaches that Deut 22:5 is talking about women wearing dresses and men wearing pants is preaching a bold faced lie, in my opinion.
Did you say that we are being lied to? So if we are being lied to then you're saying that we are deceived and you're enlightened. I hope your ministry does real well.
Thank you. And good luck with yours as well.
David did play it on his harp.
Psa 1:1-6
"Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the LAW of the LORD; and in his LAW doth he meditate day and night. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish."
The word for LAW is TORAH and Deuteronomy 22:5 is part of the TORAH.
Jesus was the LOGOS made flesh (not divine but human) and that LOGOS is the rational discourse of God and that discourse is all of the TORAH.
Paul an the rest of the apostles didn't use New Testment books they used a TORAH.
And what did Paul have to say to those who thought it proper to continue in the law?
Brother Rico wow that's pretty good so I guess we don't have to worry about you Bro, you must be bringing some powerful revelation forward and all us conservatives are just sitting around trying to think of what we can preach against. Are the people lining up at your door yet?
Spare me the sarcasm, Brother. It doesn't become you, nor does it further your argument.
Hold on, wait a minute, are you saying that GOD presents information without a preacher? Let me put it this way, can a man sit by himself and have no one around and come to revelation without ministry? Is that what you're saying?
Again, stop putting words into my mouth. I know full well that the ministry plays a role in the life of a believer, but they are not the exclusive way that God deals with people. God can speak to me just like He speaks to anyone else. In fact, He has many times in my life. Sometimes through the preaching, mainly through His Word, and recently more through dreams. If you have a problem with that take it up with God beccause neither you nor any other power hungry preacher will ever be able to take that away from me.
It doesn't exist for you because you don't want it. You refuse because you have decided that all us in Holiness Pentecostal churches are spiritual Neanderthals.
Never said that either. I would really appreciate it if you'd stop with the idiotic accusations. If you don't then this conversation is over.
What's to twist Brother Rico, the word is the word, pretty hard to twist one verse of Deuteronomy 22:5 and even harder to get 1st Timothy 2:9 wrong.
Hey, Brother Rico Mormons believe that we all come from the planet Kolob so I guess people will believe whatever they very well please.
So let me get this straight it's wrong for people to preach standards but it's not wrong for you to say that these people are liars who believe in standards?
For the last time, if anyone gets into a pulpit and preaches something that is not found in the Word then that means they are preaching lies, in my opinion. If preaching lies makes someone a liar then a liar is what they are.
Brother Rico, when someone is done with something they're done.
But it's all right to say that the Holiness Pentecostals are in the Dark Ages just as long as no one putting you there. Way to go Bro.
Again, never said anyone was in the dark ages. This is really getting old, Benincasa.
You said what we think is God's way today may change in the future, I would tend to agree, but I added just as long as you don't end up going so far down the road that you end up in some flipped out religion.
Why would I end up in some flipped out religion? I still believe the Gospel, Brother. That's not going to change. It's a settled issue for me.
Brother Rico it's like building a chopper you start out with good intentions but as you go along you might end up with something that you can't even ride.
Lord bless you my Brother.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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Answers are in blue. Brother, I am getting tired of you saying I said things I never said. It's getting old and isn't productive. Every now and then I like getting into a one on one with people of other mindsets, but I am not going to continue if you keep saying I've said things I've never said just to try and make me look bad. I haven't said anything that is too hard for anyone of average intelligence to understand so stop trying to twist what I say into something I am not saying. Maybe God lets you get away with that with His Word, but I ain't God.
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06-15-2007, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
#1. You are a gifted writer
#2. I like the plural Eldership concept.
#3. Nice to meet you. I am Oneness Pentecostal and "holiness" myself.
#4. I would be interested in knowing more about the "Puerto Rican foot"
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I believe the "Puerto Rican Foot" is something that's employed when one does not agree with a Puerto Rican.
Nice to meet you to.
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06-15-2007, 09:03 PM
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Good cause I was in the theater play once, and I was an Egyptian servant in one scene - had to wear this kilt type thingy....
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That's called naked.
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06-15-2007, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Wait a minute Brother Hoover, you just started a thread saying that this forum was dead and then you complain about my post.
Brother Hoover I will answer you when you read my post in its entirety.
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