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01-14-2014, 11:30 PM
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Re: How do you almost receive a gift?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
It's a religious colloquialism that is based on questionable theology, and that's me being careful and polite.
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
I think I am with Jermyn on this... Though I should really look that word up first!
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This??
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-14-2014, 11:35 PM
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Re: How do you almost receive a gift?
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
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Wow....profound thoughts Jason..
Is that the size of your brain?
Or was it easier to count your IQ using dots?
Or wait...maybe that was your one good, beady eye?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-14-2014, 11:41 PM
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Re: How do you almost receive a gift?
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Originally Posted by renee819
Let's look at the scriptures concerning stammering lips.
I believe that the Holy Ghost is the ' rest' promised to his people,
God sent the Holy Ghost to the Jews first, but they as a nation would not accept it, would not hear, therefore He blinded their eyes as it says in Rom 11.
Paul reminds the church of these scriptures in 1 Cor. Although he doesn't use word for word, these are the scriptures that he is referring to.
Remember, the 12-13-and 14th chapters are Paul's instructions about the Gifts of the Spirit, and the 14th is mostly about tongues.
And just as the Religious world would not hear the gospel, in that day, so also today much of the Religious world rejects it. And just as God sent blindness to Israel, in this generation He is sending the 'Strong Delusion.' But that is another subject.
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IMO, the "rest" is not speaking of the Holy Ghost at all. Nowhere in the chapter is this supported. The context of Isaiah 28 is a warning and judgement because Israel would not listen. The "rest" mentioned in verse 12 refers to verses 2-6. Then verse 7 says, "But they have erred..." and continues to write that because Israel refuses to listen, God will then use foreign oppressors who speak a foreign and strange language to speak to them.
Paul's brief mention of Isaiah's words was also as a judgement. Both speak of not hearing or listening to the Lord. Verse 19 says Paul would rather speak 5 words clearly than ten thousand in an unknown tongue, then later says tongues is a sign for unbelievers, not believers.
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01-14-2014, 11:42 PM
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Re: How do you almost receive a gift?
Wow....that's not a small pic.
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01-14-2014, 11:46 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Originally Posted by TGBTG
Wow! simply wow! That's an ignorant perception that floats around. People living in COUNTRIES on the CONTINENT of Africa speak languages that consists of syllables, words, etc. and can be written in letters. carry on...
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There is a language spoken on the continent of Africa that sounds like clicking. That's all they do is click.
I heard a story about a woman who would start clicking when the Holy Sp... when the Holy Ghost would move upon her. She was embarrassed and the laughing stock of the church. A missionary came through and recognized that she was speaking in the language of that tribe. She was never embarrassed again after that.
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01-14-2014, 11:47 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Originally Posted by Real Realism
How is that an ignorant perception? I didn't say that it was a language that could not be written down. Just that it was one example of a language that simply doesn't follow the linguistic pattern that we're familiar with in the Euro-Western culture. Or in Asian culture (which we're more familiar with because of the globalized influence of China and Japan). The "tongue clicking" consonant is an articulation that does not exist in Germanic and Latin languages. It doesn't mean it's not as valid a language as any other around the globe. That's the point.
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see my reply above
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01-14-2014, 11:50 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
This is how I believe and teach it!
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You teach that the sign of judgement against the Jews is the initial evidence of speaking in tongues?
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01-14-2014, 11:50 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: How do you almost receive a gift?
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Originally Posted by n david
Wow....that's not a small pic.
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If it didn't make you want to gouge your eyes out then I have failed
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-14-2014, 11:51 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
Luke 11:13 Oh wait, never mind......let's not cloud the issue with scripture.
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Are you serious?
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01-14-2014, 11:52 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Wow....profound thoughts Jason.. Is that the size of your brain? Or was it easier to count your IQ using dots? Or wait...maybe that was your one good, beady eye?
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So only admin can treat people like ........? or is it ok if I add emoticons?
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