Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

[Charnock]

Im not talking about a service. I am talking about a PROGRAM. I don't go to women's conferences either. Does that make me selfish too?

Do you complain about women's conferences?

What kind of fool demands I have to celebrate THEIR father's day by sitting through an hour long program and watch their parade? Do I have to celebrate your birthday too?

So now your pastor is a fool? Nice.

Are Christians really that arrogant and self centered? I have to celebrate YOUR father's day by driving across down watching your parade then watching you dash out the door to a BBQ or Outback?

This is laced with jealousy.

Are you guys really that insensitive to the people who are not parents or whose parents are gone, dead or in prison?

Most churches honor all parents dead or alive. In fact, I would say that for many people Father's Day is very healing because it gives them a chance to share memories of their dads.

Honestly I don't know whether to be surprised or not. You talk as if you left the Pharisee mindset behind but then you sound as mean and judgmental as as the group you often come here and blast away at.

I didn't start this thread. I'm not the one whining like a pubescent little girl. I'm not the one throwing the tantrum.

You are proving my point about alienating. Yeah it's SUPPOSED to be a community but it's more of a "I couldn't care less community"

Your absence proved your lack of commitment to the community.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

i am shocked at prax's reaction in this thread...

wow..

BT

[BeenThinkin]

1 Corinthians 13:1* ¶ Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
2* And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
3* And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4* ¶ Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
5* Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
6* Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
7* Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8* ¶ Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9* For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10* But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11* When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12* For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13* And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by Charnock

I'm not the one whining like a pubescent little girl. I'm not the one throwing the tantrum.

is this common?

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

is this common?

The tantrums? From Praxeas?

I'm really not around enough to answer.

I will say that I really feel for people infected with this much bitterness. It's destructive.

[n david]

I'm surprised at the overreaction to Mother's/Father's Day celebrations. I think it's important to recognize the role of the Mother and Father. Our society and administration is doing everything they can to de-emphasize the roles and remove any importance of those roles in the family unit and in society. The Bible says to give honor to whom honor is due.

Do some go overboard, perhaps; but the overwhelming majority don't.

We had both a Mother's and Father's Day celebration. Both services were awesome, God moved and people were blessed. It wasn't over the top...just a short video tribute and the messages had a slight focus on Mothers and Fathers, but could also apply to all present.

It's important for the church to recognize, lift up, and promote the roles of Mothers and Fathers. Especially in the age in which we live.

[Aquila]

Honor thy father and mother...

Wasn't that part of the Big Ten?

[MawMaw]

Concerning Mother's Day/Father's Day, I don't particularly like for an entire service to be all about either.....where all you have are a few speeches, poems, skits, and gifts. I don't mind a small portion of the service set aside to recognize the mothers or fathers, but, please don't take away the preaching and altar service from any service! Souls are at stake.

[Nitehawk013]

Some folks need to understand/accept that some services will not be blow outs or uber spiritual. Days like MOther's Day/Father's Day, CHristmas,etc are typ[ically not going to be that kind of service. Even the faithful church folk who are there are thinking about dinner with mom or dad after church. Most of the family will have plans to meet somewhere at noon or 1. A respectful and wise leader will be mindful of this and understand MOther's Day/Father's Day isn't the day you intend on "drilling until you strike oil" because all you'll do is anger a lot of saints.

Maybe part of our problem with designating services to mom and dad is that we have allowed ourselves to be conditioned to think the only time we can have a move of God is Sunday morning church service. So we gripe about "oh we didn't get to hear the word" or "we didn't have a long powerful altar call and no one got saved" on said holiday. Maybe pray through throughout the week. Read your bible throughout the week. Listen to some good rpeachign on Saturday. Pray folsk through at a home bible study. Stop expecting Sunday MOrnign CHurch to be the only time to experience God and you won't be so upset that once in a while that service is dedicated to honroing peoel who deserve it instead of providing you your "fix".

[CC1]

If Mother's Day and Father's Day services are handled correctly they should be a positive message of hope and instruction to those who did not have good mother's or father's.

We need to promote both motherhood and fatherhood and encourage those who did not have good parents that they can be and to show why it is important that they be.

Without a doubt some churches have wacked out special services on occasions like this that I would not like or approve of. However that does not change the fact that I think a service honoring fatherhood and motherhood can be a very good thing. The value of mother's and father's is not emphasized enough in our society.