Disturbing... not quite sure why... - Page 8

CC1 · #71 04-26-2013, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by larrylyates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS3uzkoF_0c

While we are on the topic...

We sing this song at church. I like it. Unlike a lot of contemporary christian music it actually has a melody and good lyrics.

Jay · #72 04-27-2013, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

The song is definitely better than the one I posted. It certainly (lyrically) gives glory to God rather than man.

I do however have some reservations about the music and presentation, but then again I am not a big fan of 'contemporary worship theology' anyway.

I honestly feel we, as a people, have gone far away from simple worship and simple lives and simple faith. I really think we have tried to replace the sovereign move of God with rock concert 'jazziness'.

When I see these mega-churches with their choirs and full bands, orchestras, etc... or even some small churches with their drum and piano ensemble (!), I wonder... would they still have a good old fashioned pentecostal service if the drum set broke and the piano player couldn't play, or if the speaker system went on the fritz...?

If you can't have the same powerful type of experience in a simple meeting with 2 or 3 believers and no instruments, PA system, etc, as you can with all the geegaws, then maybe you're not as truly 'pentecostal' as you thought?

('You' in general, not you personally...)

I just cannot help but be reminded of Frank Bartleman's warnings about pentecostal meetings leaving the Spirit behind in favor of carnal parlor tricks, using music to 'jazz the people up'...

But then again, maybe I'm just crotchety.

In my church, we only have the Pastor's guitar for music. A number of weeks ago, we lost the sound through the PA, a but we were so caught up with rejoicing in the Spirit that no one except our Pastor knew what had happened. We all thought the music was still going while we worshiped. Maybe we were hearing a Heavenly orchestra? It was a great service anyway.

Bro. Yates, you are not the only one on here who hates 'Christian' rap with a passion. I have never, and will never, have any use for it. It sits right up there with Rock. I have a wild side, but it does have a definite limit.

Michael The Disciple · #73 04-29-2013, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by larrylyates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS3uzkoF_0c

While we are on the topic...

Very nice praise and worship. As for me I don't see how it could even be debated whether this is honoring to Christ.

Titus2woman · #74 04-29-2013, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Very nice praise and worship. As for me I don't see how it could even be debated whether this is honoring to Christ.

Agree. We all honor God as we are gifted or able. Judging another's worship is just uncool although I do admit to having done so in some of the more whoop and holler UPCI services I've been in... and I'm a little creeped out by some of the 'romantic' Jesus songs... "lay back against you and breathe"... and all that... but really... whatever.

houston · #75 04-29-2013, 08:40 AM

Lay back against you and breathe???

RandyWayne · #76 04-29-2013, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Agree. We all honor God as we are gifted or able. Judging another's worship is just uncool although I do admit to having done so in some of the more whoop and holler UPCI services I've been in... and I'm a little creeped out by some of the 'romantic' Jesus songs... "lay back against you and breathe"... and all that... but really... whatever.

Don't tell me it's not worth tryin' for
You can't tell me it's not worth dyin' for
You know it's true Everything I do - I do it for you

Oh wait, that's Brian Adams singing, from Robin Hood.

Titus2woman · #77 04-29-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by houston

Lay back against you and breathe???

Hope this isn't anyone's favorite song or anything...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI_1YliutzA

Esther · #78 04-30-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lafon

A careful study of the events which took place during the famed Azuza Street revival of the early 20th Century reveals an interesting "message" received from God. It went something likened to this:

"As the time for the end draws near, more emphasis will be placed upon worship than upon righteousness."

I believe we are witness to the fulfillment of this prophetic message, for music seems to be playing an even greater part when the church assembles as a corporate body than ever before. I don't think through the words of this message that God was saying worship wasn't important, rather when music becomes the center of focus than does learning about and doing acts of righteousness, then it should be recognized that our focus is amiss.

Worship is not exclusive to music. IMO

Esther · #79 04-30-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jen4yeshua

I read that "Amazing Grace" was written to the tune of a popular drinking song of the day. I wonder if people were complaining back then that the style of music was too worldly... I have heard some really anointed Christian rap. I thought this bible commentary was interesting: http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/...eVerseID/28560
But the first song "I'm an Apostolic", whilst I guess may have its time and place, does come across as self-glorification to me.

I guess I will show my age with this comment but rap is not music to me in any way. HATE rap!

Titus2woman · #80 05-01-2013, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Esther

Worship is not exclusive to music. IMO

No it's not... and when the terms became equivocal is a mystery to me. Now 'worship service' always seems to mean 'song service' and the singspiration has replaced all other forms of worship for many. Of course a lot of 'church' as we know it today is very theatrical so it kind of fits right in.