Ryan vs. Biden, October 11 9-10:30pm EST

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Kathrynrl13

I love how everyone is saying that if you don't for Mr Romney that you are voting for Mr Obama. Not just people on here but people at my church as well.
You saying that is still not going to change my vote. Just as you feel strongly that you should vote for Mr Romney, I feel strongly that I cant not vote for Mr Romney (or Mr Obama). I have the right as an american to vote for who I feel will best run our country.

"The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you."

-- Tom Hoefling, October 6, 2012

Nobody says you don't have the right. But we also have the right to tell you we see your third party vote as a vote for Obama. If you don't care, don't be defensive about it.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Adam

Why do you think there won't be an America left if Obama is reelected? What do you think will happen?

Okay, hyperbole. Figure of speech. So many details to take the time to spell it all out. There will still be an America four years from now. It would be nice to have an America that reflects the Constitution more so than not.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

My fears concerning Obama in 2008 were absolutely fulfilled these past four years and in many ways worsened. So I'm not "fear mongering". I'm not "spreading discreditable, misrepresentative information designed to induce fear and apprehension." I am communicating my honest concerns about another Obama term. It wouldn't be fair to accuse you of "Ignorance Peddling" simply because I disagree with your reasons for voting third party. I believe you're being honest about your views. As am I.

I appreciate your post. You posted a thread stating Mark Levin's point of a third party forming if Romney fails. Well, in my view, waiting is not an option. We need to start working on that now, at least, the ones that believe more in our Constitution than the two party system does.

I'd like to know who Romney is going to appoint for his Secretary of Treasury. He hasn't said as of yet.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Nobody says you don't have the right. But we also have the right to tell you we see your third party vote as a vote for Obama. If you don't care, don't be defensive about it.

I've already posted some info, especially, in Virginia showing the Independents are not, solely, taking votes from Romney. In fact, some of them show they are helping Romney. So check that in order to be more factual instead of accusatory.

And if Romney does not win, you can only blame the RNC for putting him up. There will be no one else to blame. And with the likeability polls, you know that they show him as being the least liked of any presidential candidate running. I posted that on a thread here as well.

I also found it interesting that on the Favorable/Unfavorable polling, after the VP debate, Biden was not liked by a large percentage -12 pts - 39/51. The other interesting thing is that Ryan was liked more by only 4 points - 40/44.

Ryan was there to prove he could be the president and he did pull that off.

They both have two big issues against them from that debate.

Biden on the additional Libyan aid.

Ryan on asking for stimulus money after declaring the 2009 stimulus money was a failure. And here Ryan lies about it in an interview in August/2012:

http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/region_...stimulus-funds

[AreYouReady?]

Monsanto is one of the most hideous corporations I have ever seen that did and continues to do harm to the people of the world. Their chemical concoctions have destroyed innocent lives of not only the american people, but in third world countries, as well as Europe.

Now they are genetically modifying seeds that have been proven to cause hideous cancers in lab rats and yet our FDA turns the other cheek when it is being fed to us without giving us the freedom to choose whether we want to eat it or not. Monsanto is fighting tooth and nail over California's proposition 37 requiring the labeling of foods that has genetically modified organisms in it.

What is GMO food? http://www.nongmoproject.org/learn-more/

Mitt Romney has been closely associated with Monsanto and it's reign of destruction of human life through its applications of chemical spraying such as agent orange during the vietnam conflict...and now on our food crops.

http://truth-out.org/news/item/11531...y-monsanto-man

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Monsanto is one of the most hideous corporations I have ever seen that did and continues to do harm to the people of the world. Their chemical concoctions have destroyed innocent lives of not only the american people, but in third world countries, as well as Europe.

Now they are genetically modifying seeds that have been proven to cause hideous cancers in lab rats and yet our FDA turns the other cheek when it is being fed to us without giving us the freedom to choose whether we want to eat it or not. Monsanto is fighting tooth and nail over California's proposition 37 requiring the labeling of foods that has genetically modified organisms in it.

What is GMO food? http://www.nongmoproject.org/learn-more/

Mitt Romney has been closely associated with Monsanto and it's reign of destruction of human life through its applications of chemical spraying such as agent orange during the vietnam conflict...and now on our food crops.

http://truth-out.org/news/item/11531...y-monsanto-man

Yes, they will have friends in high places - "If Romney is elected, this bête noire of environmentalists will have a very old friend in a very high place."

Russia suspends import and use of American GM corn after study revealed cancer risk

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ncer-risk.html

[AreYouReady?]

Romney and Obama doesn't eat GMO food either and has ties to Monsanto. Geeeeeesh! What are they doing to us?

http://www.naturalnews.com/037466_GM...c_gardens.html

As I look at pictures of these tumors on lab rats, i see the same tumors on my little maltipoo and on my min/pin/ fiest who was 14 years old and recently had to be put asleep because of her many ailments, including the tumors. They were fed a diet, made from commercially prepared pet food, which I recently found out is made from GMO foods. http://www.naturalnews.com/037249_GM...an_damage.html



Look at this corn in your article. The 2 on the left is GMO, which is supposed to give farmers a better yield? That junk isn't even edible.




Let me find a dozen ears of corn with a worm at the tip of it under the silk and I will snatch it up in a NY minute! It won't be GMO!

[canam]

you anti corp freaks crack me up if you fed anything to a rat in huge quanities like they do, of course its going to cause tumors, wake up ! and as for ryan taking stimulos, im against it too, but if they are handing it out, my hand is gonna be out to take it, im not stupid.me not taking it aint gonna prevent it from happening.

[Pressing-On]

I don't always take what Natural News is saying as they are Libertarian and a little on the fringe side on some issues, but I did hear Bill Gates talk about using vaccines to hold down the world's population.

Here is the Gate's video starting at the 2:37 marker. Just a totally amazing thing to say! Didn't bother him in the least to say it.

Bill Gates Wants Depopulation Through Vaccines and Health Care
http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=A1...3290536575C723

[Sam]

well, the debate is over and has been over for some time and maybe further comment is like beating a dead horse, but I'd like to share some more debate pictures.