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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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I recently let my license drop.
I know of six other ministers whom I am close to in both age and ideology who have done the same.
They're sick of it.
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Can you explain "sick of it"? What exactly is causing you guys to let your license drop
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Sick of what?
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What are you sick of?
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Hypocrisy.
Politics.
False doctrine.
Legalism.
Hatefulness.
Religious Pride.
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01-27-2011, 08:43 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Hypocrisy.
Politics.
False doctrine.
Legalism.
Hatefulness.
Religious Pride.
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Is that all? .... (Yep, been there, done that and have the Tee shirt to boot, but it's short sleeve so I can't wear it to Gen Conf. if I was of the mind to go! NOT! 
Been Thinkin
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01-27-2011, 08:45 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Hypocrisy.
Politics.
False doctrine.
Legalism.
Hatefulness.
Religious Pride.
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What did you think of BOTT?
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01-27-2011, 08:48 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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What did you think of BOTT?
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Overall, it was very good.
Mike Williams message was my favorite, but Mark Morgan was very good as well.
DKB used the term Apostolic Identity no less than three times in his fifteen minute message, and Jeff Arnold couldn't stop using words like poop and bastard, not to mention insulting everyone from the host pastor to the politicos in attendance.
Other than that, I enjoyed the experience.
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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01-27-2011, 08:57 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Good to know, Pel. Do you suppose there is a correlation between sectarianism and dispensational eschatology?
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Definitely. Just look at the UPC. How did they respond when faced with an apparently "competing" eschatology (Partial Preterism)? They immediately divided and kicked out the PP's.
Tim LaHaye is perhaps the one most responsible for popularizing Dispensationalism in recent years. Read his earlier books, "The Battle for the Mind" and "The Battle for the Bible." He draws some very exclusivistic boxes around what he thinks is "correct" belief and "incorrect" beliefs.
Dispensationalism depends upon a very literal interpretation of the entire Bible. Dwight Pentecost's book "Things to Come" - which was used as a prophecy text in most UPC Bible Colleges at one time or the other - emphasizes the need for a consistent literal interpretation.
Every disagreement about obviously symbolic passages, disagreements about the meanings of symbols used in "literal" passages, the constant frustration in attempting to reconcile dates and chronologies... it all leads to innumerable divisions whenever one side or the other claims that "God told me so..."
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01-27-2011, 08:58 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Overall, it was very good.
Mike Williams message was my favorite, but Mark Morgan was very good as well.
DKB used the term Apostolic Identity no less than three times in his fifteen minute message, and Jeff Arnold couldn't stop using words like poop and bastard, not to mention insulting everyone from the host pastor to the politicos in attendance.
Other than that, I enjoyed the experience.
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Jeff Arnold needs to go back to doing magic tricks..... he wasn't as insulting when he was doing that! Oh, wait! Maybe he was!
Been Thinkin
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"From the time you're born, 'til you ride in the hearse, there ain't nothing bad that couldn't be worse!"
LIFE: Some days you're the dog and some days you're the hydrant!
I have ... Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia! The fear of long words.
"Prediction is very hard, especially about the future." - Yogi Berra
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave in reflection." - Thomas Paine
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01-27-2011, 09:02 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Jeff Arnold needs to go back to doing magic tricks..... he wasn't as insulting when he was doing that! Oh, wait! Maybe he was!
Been Thinkin
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Hah! You are a brother if you were around that long ago.
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01-27-2011, 09:06 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Hah! You are a brother if you were around that long ago.
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Yep! He made a fool out of me one day.....moving around dots on a card! I suddenly thought I had it figured out and he acted like I had and then made a fool out of me in front of everyone! So come to think about it.... he was a smartaleck even then! lol
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LIFE: Some days you're the dog and some days you're the hydrant!
I have ... Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia! The fear of long words.
"Prediction is very hard, especially about the future." - Yogi Berra
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave in reflection." - Thomas Paine
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01-27-2011, 09:15 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Hypocrisy.
Politics.
False doctrine.
Legalism.
Hatefulness.
Religious Pride.
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Your bitter and have an agenda
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01-27-2011, 09:36 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Your bitter and have an agenda
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