Was Dr Laura Schlessinger treated fairly?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Maximilian

Dr. Laura regrets saying it.

If you believe there's a double-standard, go for that argument without sinking to that level.

I hate the double standard as well. I also realize a white guy calling a black guy a "nigger" is different than a black guy calling another black guy a "nigger." We can cry "not fair" (and I agree), but it is what it is. They took the negativity of that word and turned into a familial word. Coming from a white guy, it's hard to have that tone.

I think the word should be buried and never remembered again.

I agree 100%, however when Oprah did her show on its use (among other offensive terms) in the music/entertainment industry, much [most?] of the strong support for its continued use came from black people.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Maximilian

Yeah, I remember this controversy. His tirade was most certainly racist too (Richards) and awkward. Regarding the "two words," I think I agree... not agree with using it, but there are clearly two words in use. One has a slang epitaph with it and the other is used by now-retired Klan members.

But there is also the phenomena where a well meaning "white guy" who admires particular black entertainers and tries to emulate them will find that simply because of the color of his skin, he doesn't fit in with others. It seemed to me that Schlessinger's caller had a husband like that.

"Why can't that homie hang out with his dawgs and chill with those 'niggaz?'" That seems to have been the problem the caller was confronting. Schlessinger seemed to take the position that there are many blacks who are racist enough that they would never chill with a white guy even if he did marry their sister.

I drove past the historical marker for the Brown vs. Board of Education case in Kansas last week. A young black lawyer named Thurgood Marshal argued that "separate but equal" has no place in America because "separate is inherently unequal." His argument prevailed and stands as the law of the land with regard to education. That ruling and the subsequent laws that followed were then enforced by a Kansas farm boy named Eisenhower when he went so far as to call out the Army and force segregation at the point of a gun.

Having worked and fought so hard to become a part of America's broader culture, why do so many blacks now want to exclude whites from the shared aspects of that culture? If it's okay for a black man to "chill with the 'niggaz'" then a white man should be allowed to chill with the same folks.

[johnny44]

Originally Posted by canam

Cracker,Cracker ,Cracker, Ok, Lets see some outrage !

I like ritz crackers.

[drummerboy_dave]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

It's not hypersensitivity.

It's hyper-insensitivity.

Really? Then, you've made up another word the PC nuts will love.

Whatever point she was trying to make could have been made in a better way.

I actually called Advance Auto Corp HQ's letting them know about my displeasure with her and how I hope they would withdraw their sponsorship.

I may call others.

Glad for you. Info is posted.

[drummerboy_dave]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I agree 100%, however when Oprah did her show on its use (among other offensive terms) in the music/entertainment industry, much [most?] of the strong support for its continued use came from black people.

And, why would that be?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

It's not hypersensitivity.

It's hyper-insensitivity.


Whatever point she was trying to make could have been made in a better way.

I actually called Advance Auto Corp HQ's letting them know about my displeasure with her and how I hope they would withdraw their sponsorship.

I may call others.

IF she was a black woman would you have still called?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

"Redneck" does not have the same history or hatred associated with it as the n word.



We're comparing apples and oranges here.

Does that make it alright to call someone a redneck in a derogatory way?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by pelathais

What do you think about the following? I guess you agree?



from http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m.../ai_n26712135/

So Dr L's mistake was not using the Z? Or could she say that and be ok? So much for freedom of speech...Blacks can say it but nobody else can use that word...even if it's NOT intended to be hateful

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Does that make it alright to call someone a redneck in a derogatory way?

No, but the point remains that the "n word" is much more an emotional bomb that "redneck."

The same is true with calling a woman a "chick" or a "c***" Neither are respectful, one evokes an appropriate slap in the face though.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

So Dr L's mistake was not using the Z? Or could she say that and be ok? So much for freedom of speech...Blacks can say it but nobody else can use that word...even if it's NOT intended to be hateful

That little one letter nuance sort of changes the whole word.

Point being, Dr. Laura shouldn't have said it, and she has already publicly apologized and admitted her regret. If we want to insist on the double-standard, go for it, I got your back. More importantly, I strongly encourage the Black Community to quit using it. Many in the BC already feel that way.