Hell's Best Kept Secret? Ray Comfort

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

and you can't in sin ... Cmon Jeff you know better ...

Nobody here is talking about license to sin....we're talking about responding to a message of Good News....and the Good News is that I have life in Jesus Christ. It would be silly to suggest that one does not have to turn away from sin, but I am drawn to God for what he offers me, not from what I avoid...you can go on ahead and keep serving God with the main focus to avoid hell fire....I will focus on better things, things that offer life, things that fill me up for serving such an awesome God who loves me even while I am sinful and he teaches me to pray daily, asking for forgiveness of my sins...I mean are we to think that sins only have to be the ones people consider high on a some scale they have...or do we sin just when respond to a friend or family member in a harsh way....Cmon now, Dan....get with it!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by J-Roc

Nobody here is talking about license to sin....we're talking about responding to a message of Good News....and the Good News is that I have life in Jesus Christ. It would be silly to suggest that one does not have to turn away from sin, but I am drawn to God for what he offers me, not from what I avoid...you can go on ahead and keep serving God with the main focus to avoid hell fire....I will focus on better things, things that offer life, things that fill me up for serving such an awesome God who loves me even while I am sinful and he teaches me to pray daily, asking for forgiveness of my sins...I mean are we to think that sins only have to be the ones people consider high on a some scale they have...or do we sin just when respond to a friend or family member in a harsh way....Cmon now, Dan....get with it!

Jeff ... no one disagrees w/ you ... the positive aspects of serving God are appealing and well documented ... but the greatest miracle he does in our lives is not what some preachers today are presenting .... prosperity, purpose ...etc.

the greatest miracle is salvation from sin and death ...

One might get all the perks ... and one may not ... yet if all he does for us is save us from sin ... IT'S ENOUGH.

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

There is no invitation in this verse you've highlighted but castigation for those who did not doing his will .. you're picking and choosing phrases now ...

"Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven."

That sounds like a reward to me if I do his will...

[SDG]

Originally Posted by J-Roc

"Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven."

That sounds like a reward to me if I do his will...

yes ... IN the inverse ... but in context ... it's not an invitation as you originally suggested but a punishment for POSERS.

[SDG]

next verse ... J....

22Many will say to Me in that day, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' 23And then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I am speaking of two ways... my good friend ... this is how he presented it .... the way to eternal life ... and the way to perdition ...

16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[f] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.


He is the WAY ... THE TRUTH ... AND THE LIFE

WELL THAT IS EXACTLY MY EMPHASIS...the BIBLE CLEARLY TEACHES THAT THERE IS NO CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST JESUS......THIS IS MY EMPHASIS!!!! FEAR HAS TO DO WITH JUDGEMENT AND FEAR DOES NOT COME FROM GOD.....I DO NOT LIVE IN FEAR I LIVE IN THE FREEDOM THAT IS IN GOD'S PROMISES!!!!

SOMEONE PLEASE POINT ME TO THE CROSS!!!!!!!!!!

[rrford]

Originally Posted by J-Roc

WELL THAT IS EXACTLY MY EMPHASIS...the BIBLE CLEARLY TEACHES THAT THERE IS NO CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST JESUS......THIS IS MY EMPHASIS!!!! FEAR HAS TO DO WITH JUDGEMENT AND FEAR DOES NOT COME FROM GOD.....I DO NOT LIVE IN FEAR I LIVE IN THE FREEDOM THAT IS IN GOD'S PROMISES!!!!

SOMEONE PLEASE POINT ME TO THE CROSS!!!!!!!!!!

Righteous judgment indeed comes from God. He cannot be holy and not judge. It seems you are making a defense of how a sinner should be approached. Tha he should be encouraged without conviction. Hard to do scripturally, IMO.

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Indeed ... because he came to save that what was lost .....
to bring eternal life ...

LOL...what an amazing sight to see....Dan and RRFORD holding hands in agreement.....

[rrford]

Originally Posted by J-Roc

LOL...what an amazing sight to see....Dan and RRFORD holding hands in agreement.....

Not strange to me considering the subject at hand. What is somewhat strange to me is your view on all of this.

[J-Roc]

Jesus Sends Out the Twelve
1He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out evil[a] spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.
2These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon (who is called Peter) and his brother Andrew; James son of Zebedee, and his brother John; 3Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus; 4Simon the Zealot and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him.

5These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. 7As you go, [B]preach this message: 'The kingdom of heaven is near.' 8Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy,drive out demons.