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04-30-2010, 12:23 PM
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Re: Best Sermon you've ever heard?
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Yeah true, but in my experience, when most people say they don't care what anyone thinks, they're very caring what people think and are trying to talk themselves out of us.
Three or four years ago, our local cable provider carried, on a remote channel, the Jimmy Swaggart Show, or whatever it's called these days. I also have a close friend who was the audio guru for the telecasts during the Swaggart glory days, and he also recorded with him.
The whole thing there is sad these days. There are 150 people crammed in the front 2 or 3 rows of a 7,000 seat building, and the Swaggarts are taking constant swings at everyone in Christianity, pretty much. It seems like everything they do is because of what people think of them.....which isn't much.
Incredibly, they still bring in 50 million+ annually in donations, with most of it coming from foreign countries (that this in a Christian magazine...can't remember which one)
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I had heard that they curtain off most of the building but i didnt know they were down to 150 with that immense building they have. On their TV show i noticed they take very tight and controlled camera shots. I couldnt think of anything more depressing than having a empty building like that. I saw it at Carpenters Home Church which seats 6-7000 folks in Lakeland, FL and they only have maybe 1000 folks in there... that was the saddest service i've ever been to.
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04-30-2010, 12:57 PM
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Re: Best Sermon you've ever heard?
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Wait we can be best buddies!!! Wait! Wait!
Truth is that I haven't listed to him in about a year or more now that I think about it. The lastime I heard him he was preaching about the outpouring of HG. It was a great message. Something that would fit in EVERY Apostolic Church in America. Shouldn't have judged him by one sermon, my bad. I will retract my previous statement....THIS IS MY RECANTATION....But I am sure even Reverend Wright preached an ok message every now and again.
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Ok, tell you what....since you are in need to absolution, you can regain favor by doing two things:
1) Never, ever give another compliment to a wild, out-of-control, pentecostal/charismatic TV preacher, and;
2) Tell me you love the Foo Fighters and think that Dave Grohl should be president.
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04-30-2010, 04:36 PM
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Re: Best Sermon you've ever heard?
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Ok, tell you what....since you are in need to absolution, you can regain favor by doing two things:
1) Never, ever give another compliment to a wild, out-of-control, pentecostal/charismatic TV preacher, and;
2) Tell me you love the Foo Fighters and think that Dave Grohl should be president.
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Agreed and Agreed.
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04-30-2010, 04:37 PM
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Re: Best Sermon you've ever heard?
Another GREAT sermon is "Hot Coals Off the Altar" by Kevin Knudson.
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04-30-2010, 04:49 PM
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Re: Best Sermon you've ever heard?
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Another GREAT sermon is "Hot Coals Off the Altar" by Kevin Knudson.
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You've outdone yourself!! You agreed to my terms, AND gave a compliment to a good friend and a great guy.
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04-30-2010, 04:55 PM
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Re: Best Sermon you've ever heard?
Kev used to be my Pastor here in AZ.
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04-30-2010, 10:04 PM
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Re: Best Sermon you've ever heard?
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You're kidding, right? Dang, I thought after your "30 Seconds to Mars" thread today, we could be best buds. Now, if you like Donnie Swaggart in any way whatsoever, we're on different galaxies.
In one sermon I heard him preach, he said that Rick Warren was a "man of the devil and needed to be saved".
Donnie's a nut. Certifiably.
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Rick Warren is a man of the devil and needs to be saved?
Sounds like something a three-stepper would say.
Also, there is a group of folks that believe Rick Warren is being used by satan to usher in a one-world government/church
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04-30-2010, 10:13 PM
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Re: Best Sermon you've ever heard?
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Rick Warren is a man of the devil and needs to be saved?
Sounds like something a three-stepper would say.
Also, there is a group of folks that believe Rick Warren is being used by satan to usher in a one-world government/church
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Yes, recently there was a nut......ahem, I mean, a good brother in the Lord, who posted on my Warren thread about that stuff. Just when you think you've heard it all....
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04-30-2010, 10:21 PM
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Re: Best Sermon you've ever heard?
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Yes, recently there was a nut......ahem, I mean, a good brother in the Lord, who posted on my Warren thread about that stuff. Just when you think you've heard it all....
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I used to be on another forum with someone who had lots of posts with references to web sites showing how Rick Warren was being used by satan to bring us all into one government and one church.
Then he showed up here with some of that stuff, but I haven't seen him on here lately. Maybe we're too liberal for him.
For the record, I believe Rick Warren is born again
and I have no idea what he believes about water baptism or speaking with tongues.
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04-30-2010, 10:28 PM
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Re: Best Sermon you've ever heard?
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I used to be on another forum with someone who had lots of posts with references to web sites showing how Rick Warren was being used by satan to bring us all into one government and one church.
Then he showed up here with some of that stuff, but I haven't seen him on here lately. Maybe we're too liberal for him.
For the record, I believe Rick Warren is born again
and I have no idea what he believes about water baptism or speaking with tongues.
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I believe he is still a card-carrier for the Southern Baptist Convention. however, he certainly doesn't tow their line. No wait, he doesn't "toe" their line. Is it "Toe"? I think it's "toe."
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