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04-02-2009, 02:41 PM
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Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Elizabeth
I think this is a great point, but basing that assumption on carrying cash alone, I'm just having trouble understanding. I know 4k may seem like a lot of money but when you are traveling it really is not.
This is still a very good point though.
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Young and inexperienced perhaps? Careless?
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If he worked for me and was carrying that amount of cash on him, I would have told him he was irresponsible. I can pay bills with that money. lol
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04-02-2009, 02:43 PM
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Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
We have to think... there is a good chance that I will be "terrorized" at the airport by the TSA.
To me... the point is that this is just going to get worse until we start calling their bluff.
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The real issue in this country is that we have hardly any morality left. That's why we are in the fix we are in - in every area.
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04-02-2009, 02:47 PM
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Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Put yourself in the shoes of someone who follows the law and doesn't become a law unto themselves and detain people illegally and trample on peoples constitutional and God given rights simply because they "see the individual as suspect."
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I am a law abiding citizen and as I said, I wouldn’t have been caught by surprise if they delayed me for carrying that much cash. It’s like when I went to the local police department for background checks. I accidentally left my pocket knife in my pocket and they wouldn’t let me in the building. I had to go back out to my car and secure it there. I’m a law abiding citizen and the knife was legal. I was charged with no crime. No rights were violated. When I saw that I had it, I cooperated. These guys are not monsters, they are fellow Americans too. They have a job to do and they want you, me, and themselves to all get home to our family’s safe after the day is done.
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It is not within their realm of authority to do so and one should only operate within the realm of their authority.
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Actually they are. Even banks have to report financial transactions of $10,000 or more to federal authorities. Ferd knows this because I’ve been talking to him about it….but I’m transferring to the local airport police division processing SIDA background checks,
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That is why racial profiling is wrong.
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Profiling as policy without any reasonable suspicion is definitely risky in this legal climate.
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Because somebody wears baggy pants and has dreadlocks you can't just "see them as suspect". A person is innocent until proven guilty. They can look as suspect as they want to. Looking suspect isn't a crime.
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Actually, the man was carrying an uncommon amount of cash on him. It’s not his clothes; it’s not his skin color, its cash. He might have just gotten through slaughtering a pig, but if he showed up covered in blood they’d detain him until they knew things were kosher. And for the record, he wasn’t charged with a crime. He was simply detained as a measure of public safety. It is the government’s job to protect life, liberty, and property. They were acting for the greater good of a society. How else do you expect them to catch some of these thugs?
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People who lean on street corners "look suspect".
People who drive around town in continuous loops "look suspect".
Looking suspect cannot, is not, will never be a good measure for legal detainment.
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Detainment is detainment. No harm was done to the man. He wasn’t detained indefinitely without legal counsel like Gitmo….he was simply detained so that they could clear him and be sure he wasn’t wanted. I’m sure if you’re daughter was on that flight, you’d appreciate all the safety measures these civil servants take on a daily basis.
Again…it all just sounds like whiney pants, ultracon, bluster. The man could have been wanted and on the run. Had they caught him and he had been proven to be an international weapons dealer doing business with domestic terror cells we’d be cheering these airport security measures. You’re allowing spin to cloud your judgment.
I hate to break it to y'all but for the sake of national security and public safety....some people are going to be inconvinienced. Law abiding citizens are going to have to stop whining.
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04-02-2009, 02:49 PM
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Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Really? We carry quite a bit of cash when we're traveling--usually around $400-$1,000.00. (Split between my purse and Jeff's wallet for safety.) AND the bank card, of course! You need cash for quick stops, tips at hotels, emergencies, etc.
If I DID have a large quantity of cash for some reason, my SUITCASE is where it would be, rather than on my person. Isn't that what he did? Stuck it in his suitcase? LOL!!!!!
I do agree that it would have been wiser to wire the money, and not risk losing it in his luggage, among other reasons, but I don't agree that carry money while traveling is in itself a cause for suspicion.
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You're a theif's dream come true! Two words for ya hon...
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04-02-2009, 02:49 PM
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Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
http://www.tsa.gov/311/index.shtm
Here is the gov web site and it is clear this incident fit the Missouri State law enforcement bulletin and not the TSA.
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04-02-2009, 02:49 PM
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Incredible India
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Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
If he worked for me and was carrying that amount of cash on him, I would have told him he was irresponsible. I can pay bills with that money. lol
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I guess the problem for me is not the amount, but how he carried it-
That's the part I think was rather careless, not illegal but careless.
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04-02-2009, 02:50 PM
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Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Elizabeth
You didn't put it through inspection right? The cash that is-
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The spies will monitor these web sites.
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04-02-2009, 02:51 PM
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Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
C'mon PO...
He has the right to carry cash... any amount...
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You're right. However, he should expect that an airport isn't going to just let him waltz in with that kind of cash without a question. Common sense here folks. Any seasoned traveler knows this. The guy's an idiot.
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04-02-2009, 02:52 PM
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Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Aquila
You're a thief's dream come true! Two words for ya hon...
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Traveler's Checks seem like too much trouble. LOL!!!!!
I still don't see how you can get out of having cash on hand, and plenty of it. We've been in places where they don't accept anything except cash.
Regardless, I agree that he wasn't wise to handle the money that way, mainly because it wasn't his to lose, if something were to happen with his luggage. But I don't agree that carrying cash makes a person suspect.
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04-02-2009, 02:52 PM
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Incredible India
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Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Really? We carry quite a bit of cash when we're traveling--usually around $400-$1,000.00. (Split between my purse and Jeff's wallet for safety.) AND the bank card, of course! You need cash for quick stops, tips at hotels, emergencies, etc.
If I DID have a large quantity of cash for some reason, my SUITCASE is where it would be, rather than on my person. Isn't that what he did? Stuck it in his suitcase? LOL!!!!!
I do agree that it would have been wiser to wire the money, and not risk losing it in his luggage, among other reasons, but I don't agree that carry money while traveling is in itself a cause for suspicion.
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Don't ever do this if you are going to go to India, they go through your bags.
We always carry cash on our person-hid of course but never in our suit cases.
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