Have You Been to WWPF Lately?

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Hello oletime, I agree.. N. Urshan would of made a difference. Your Post reminded me of the 1963 sermon at the UPC gen. conf. by Elder C. Ballestero.. "The handwriting is on the wall". I don't think the resolution will be reversed nor I'm I particularly hoping for that. The WPF has the cream of the crop. Godairs, Booker,J. King, T. Nance, Coon, Wilson, F. Odem, T French, R. Treece, and many others. Its time for a new thing.. the WPF will enforce the bylaws. If the UPCI would of just enforced what they put in the manual all this could of been avoided. God bless.
TR

Cream of the crop? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Is there such a thing in God's kingdom? Did Paul and Peter run around saying, "we are the cream of the crop"?

[mizpeh]

Comparing ourselves among ourselves is not wise.

Lifting up one over another, I'm of Apollos, I'm of Paul,....again not wise.

Let God decide who the cream of the crop is and who are the vessels of gold and silver. When man does this type of thing, it has an air of superiority and superficiality about it.

[SOUNWORTHY]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Comparing ourselves among ourselves is not wise.

Lifting up one over another, I'm of Apollos, I'm of Paul,....again not wise.

Let God decide who the cream of the crop is and who are the vessels of gold and silver. When man does this type of thing, it has an air of superiority and superficiality about it.

I couldn't agree more. UPC has some very fine men. In fact every organization has some very good people, they are not confined to UPCI, WWPF, Grace International or any other group.

[Jekyll]

What if you're the sour cream of the crop?

[Jekyll]

I seriously don't understand why men can't be acting members of both orgs. If they pay their dues to both, I don't see why one can't be a member of both. They aren't competing orgs.

To say that it is disturbing especially when one isn't in active membership of the org is like the guy sitting on his deck overlooking the country club silently telling the guy at the tee box to club down. Who cares?

Hey, Phelps, where are you when all the snide comments are being made here??

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

What if you're the sour cream of the crop?

I hope WPF brings much glory to the name of Jesus Christ.

It's the superior attitude I found distasteful. It leads to a holier than thou mindset.

[theoldpaths]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Cream of the crop? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Is there such a thing in God's kingdom? Did Paul and Peter run around saying, "we are the cream of the crop"?

Paul spoke of those of reputation...

Gal 2:2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.

Php 2:29 Receive him therefore in the Lord with all gladness; and hold such in reputation:

Reminds me of the scripture in Proverbs that speaks of having a good name.

Does the NT speak of showing special honour to some? Yes it does...

1Ti 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by theoldpaths

Paul spoke of those of reputation...

Gal 2:2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.

Php 2:29 Receive him therefore in the Lord with all gladness; and hold such in reputation:

Reminds me of the scripture in Proverbs that speaks of having a good name.

Does the NT speak of showing special honour to some? Yes it does...

1Ti 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

It's the attitude that I took offence with. "My team is better than your team."

[theoldpaths]

if Tim Rutledge holds them in reputation and worthy of double-honor, then great. I know one in that list that I have a great deal of respect for as well; the others I don't know so well, but have heard good things about them.

In my opinion, the WPF just does NOT want to remove the ancient landmarks that their fathers/elders have set up and do not want to build again those things that they once destroyed; I think that is great.

They just want to abide by and enforce the bylaws that they and all other licensed UPC'ers have been signing their name to re-commit to and abide by for years.

I think these are all good things.

[Tim Rutledge]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Cream of the crop? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Is there such a thing in God's kingdom? Did Paul and Peter run around saying, "we are the cream of the crop"?

Yes I'm serious. These Elders are holding to the old paths. Time will tell.