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Old 04-16-2008, 02:32 PM
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Re: Another reason NOT to vote for Obama

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You sound like you would be more comfortable in a socialist country where they take half of your income and in return give you everything you need. The government’s job is to protect us and to give us freedom to make choices. I don't want the government involved in every part of my life.
Actually I believe in a mixed economy. I think some things are best socialized while others are not. For example health insurance. Most of the Western World has already realized that while the socialized insurance system has issues and definitely needs some adjustments, at least you can be sure of two things…

- The vast majority pays something into the system.
- The vast majority are covered.

Currently our premiums are sky high because we’re paying for the loss the industry is taking from the uninsured that can’t or won’t pay their bills. Why should someone who doesn’t have insurance be able to go to a hospital, get care, not pay anything and then you and me are responsible for inflated premiums to pay for their bill? Most of those who are uninsured are “working poor” who work but have no health insurance or inadequate coverage. At least in Canada these people would be paying SOMETHING into the system and we wouldn’t be fitting their bill in higher premiums. What’s interesting is that the current private system is doing exactly what you don’t want the government to do…make you pay for others. The only way to maintain a private system without our premiums being inflated to pay for the uninsured is if we refused treatment to individuals who didn’t have adequate insurance.

Here’s a great website for information:

http://republicansforsinglepayer.com/

Who do you call if you need the police? Who do you call if you’re house is on fire?
Who do you call to defend the boarder? Government has a role to play in all our lives.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:45 PM
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Maybe this should be on another thread, but it anyone besides me appalled at the actions of Jimmy Carter and his trip to the ME?
Carter’s crazy.

From my understanding Carter wants to negotiate the release of a prisoner. The only issue is those who have him are classified as a terrorist group. The issue gets more complex when we realize that this elements of this terrorist group were legitimately elected to positions of political power making them political bodies. So the question is…do we treat these folks like terrorists….or do we treat these folks like political officials since they were legitimately elected to official offices?

To resolve the issue, I think they should require former Presidents to receive Congressional permission to meet with leaders abroad. Those who meet with foreign leaders against the will of Congress should face charges. That would resolve this.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:46 PM
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Maybe this should be on another thread, but it anyone besides me appalled at the actions of Jimmy Carter and his trip to the ME?
jimma carta is a complete boob, and is just being used by his so called friends the terrorist, what a moron, there you go HO, my opinion, lol,dt
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Seems to me that his actions are just under the line of committing treason. I mean, embracing our enemies? Putting flowers on the grave of a terrorist? Is this an action he'd do if Osama were to meet with him?
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:58 PM
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Seems to me that his actions are just under the line of committing treason. I mean, embracing our enemies? Putting flowers on the grave of a terrorist? Is this an action he'd do if Osama were to meet with him?
While I don't think it's time to deal with them...eventually someone is going to have to site down and talk with these people. And again...Carter is going to try to secure the release of a prisoner. You can't do that if you walk over spitting at them and yelling slander like a drunken hillbilly. LOL

Carter shouldn't go...but someone, some day, will have to sit down with the enemy and try to work things out.
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While I don't think it's time to deal with them...eventually someone is going to have to site down and talk with these people. And again...Carter is going to try to secure the release of a prisoner. You can't do that if you walk over spitting at them and yelling slander like a drunken hillbilly. LOL

Carter shouldn't go...but someone, some day, will have to sit down with the enemy and try to work things out.
Chris, that's not what he's doing. Not at all. His actions are making Americans look like they are condoning terrorists by embracing them and putting flowers on Arafat's grave. And he's not on any official business. His actions toward the terrorists won't make any bit of difference to them than if you or I went and did the same thing. It only makes America look foolish.

We have TRIED sitting down and dealing with them, but that's not how they operate. THEY are the ones who don't want to sit down and deal with us, not the other way around. I'm puzzled by your comments suggesting that this hasn't been tried already.
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I believe a free market economy is the best way to prosperity.
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Ferd, CONGRATULATIONS! You have convinced me to not vote for Obama!

In fact, I won't be participating in this year's Presidential election.

God Bless America...
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I believe a free market economy is the best way to prosperity.
I see "Free Market Economy" and "Communism" the same way...the both sound good on paper but don't work in practice. Those who are dogmatic purists don't see this, but hey, that's the way it's always been. So I prefer "Fair Trade" over "Free Trade" and a "Mixed Economy". Also I see things in a state of flux. There are times in a mixed economy to lighten up on regulation and lean toward a more open market...then there are times to tighten the belt so to speak.
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Ferd, CONGRATULATIONS! You have convinced me to not vote for Obama!

In fact, I won't be participating in this year's Presidential election.

God Bless America...
while i applaud your conviction in not voting for the number one lib in the senate chosen, i wish you well, dt
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