WWPF to allow women preachers

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Walkbyfaith7

Did Paul have a wrong spirit?

Not if his teachings are kept in context.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Not if his teachings are kept in context.

lol

Paul taught that a woman is under than man and the man if under Christ and Christ is under God, correct?

[Aquila]

We are Pentecostal. Pentecost launched the fulfillment of that which was spoken by the prophet Joel,

Acts 2:17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

I’d like to see a man “prophesy” without speaking in the assembly. Evidently it was prophesied that women would prophesy. This requires that we search for the context of Paul’s remarks are we have a contradiction in Scripture.

Those who don’t believe that daughters shall prophesy…call into question God’s honesty.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Walkbyfaith7

lol

Paul taught that a woman is under than man and the man if under Christ and Christ is under God, correct?

In the family unit yes. Paul wasn't addressing church leadership. Men are still to be subject to their pastors. If the pastor allows a woman to prophesy...rejecting her is rejecting the pastor's authority and is therefore rebellion.

I think it's all because too many of us men are tooooooo insecure to allow a woman to minister.

BRAVO!! for you Sis. Alvear--I wonder what these same people would do with Nona Freeman, Barbara Willoughby, Joy Haney, etc.--I just sat at Landmark several days ago and listened to Sis. Willoughby--and oh my word, she was more annointed than many of the men I submissively sit and listen to. I also watched as her husband listened, praised the Lord, and supported her totally! Sometimes I wonder if some of our men just feel threatened themselves by God using a woman! Keep up the good work!

Originally Posted by Aquila

In the family unit yes. Paul wasn't addressing church leadership. Men are still to be subject to their pastors. If the pastor allows a woman to prophesy...rejecting her is rejecting the pastor's authority and is therefore rebellion.

I think it's all because too many of us men are tooooooo insecure to allow a woman to minister.

In the family unit? Jesus is not my dad. He is my spiritual Father. This was not only a family unit principle but a spiritual one as well.

Notice how he goes on to say why woman should have a covering and talking about the angels and the glory of God/glory of men.

Elder ladies can teach younger ladies, as Paul states clearly.

Originally Posted by CaliG

BRAVO!! for you Sis. Alvear--I wonder what these same people would do with Nona Freeman, Barbara Willoughby, Joy Haney, etc.--I just sat at Landmark several days ago and listened to Sis. Willoughby--and oh my word, she was more annointed than many of the men I submissively sit and listen to. I also watched as her husband listened, praised the Lord, and supported her totally! Sometimes I wonder if some of our men just feel threatened themselves by God using a woman! Keep up the good work!

I don't think annointing means approval from God, do you? I could tell you so many things preachers said "under the annointing" that were wrong/false/not the will of God.

[Sister Alvear]

Thank you kind sister. I have never felt talk a lot on this subject for gifts and callings speak for themselves. Wise men will know ...I must be very careful in front of my boys as they are young missionaries and pastors and preachers. They would say hard things to defend me but I don't want them to get involved...they are men and will never face the issues I have faced being a woman, a wife and a mother and a missionary at the same time. Soon I will be off the scene of battle...I fought for the souls of Brazil and lived long enough to see my efforts rewarded...
No one has to clap when I walk in or stand up in my honor. I am not that type person. I seek not a name or position.
I think my husband would fight ( I know he would) if someone tried to hurt me. So many times I never mention things people say...

[Sister Alvear]

Touch Not My anointed ones, and do My prophets no harm.’” (Ps 105:15) Must mean something...

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by CaliG

BRAVO!! for you Sis. Alvear--I wonder what these same people would do with Nona Freeman, Barbara Willoughby, Joy Haney, etc.--I just sat at Landmark several days ago and listened to Sis. Willoughby--and oh my word, she was more annointed than many of the men I submissively sit and listen to. I also watched as her husband listened, praised the Lord, and supported her totally! Sometimes I wonder if some of our men just feel threatened themselves by God using a woman! Keep up the good work!

Some feel threatened due to fragile egos or poor self image. Some feel envious because they feel cheated that God would use a woman and not them. Others struggle with secret sin that objectifies women and they find it hard to see a woman as anything more than an object. Sometimes the men just aren’t of a submitted spirit and they take occasion when a woman preaches to bow up against the pastor who allows the woman to speak.

I was always told that if you want to test a man’s submission to spiritual leadership…ask a woman to preach. LOL.