Floyd Odom, who retired from Pentecostal Tabernacle in Hattiesburg, MS moved to Gulf Shores (Bon Secour) Alabama to a retirement home he bought. From pretty reliable sources, he and his wife have gotten an apartment in Tulsa. With that being said, I believe Tulsa is more than a "fellowship". It is indeed a split because why else would he move there? Also his name is on the flier as being from Tulsa, which confirms what we were told.
Yeah but they would have to drive through it to get to the restaurants at the Riverwalk.
If they did that they'd have to drive through my home suburb as well....I guess they could stop in and watch some good football with me on their way to eat...LOL
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Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
Quoting from their own site: The formation of WPF is an outgrowth of the changing times and directions within the American apostolic movement and is the result of a constellation of events and decisions which have shaped apostolic direction for some time—some, we fear, for the worse, and ours hopefully for the better.
The wording of the text seems, IMO, to point to just that cause. A new organization. Perhaps the reason that is is being touted as a fellowship is that right now, pre-org, it is not in the group's best interest to publicize it as such during this "recruitment" time.
"Mapping a preferred Apostolic future" certainly means that, in their opinion, the current organization that they belong to (or are leaving, or intend to leave) is not adequate to meet the needs of the future. Therefore, the creation of this organization is the result. Also, when you see such things on the schedule as Governance, By-Laws, Articles of Faith and Membership, its hard to define that organizational structure as a fellowship. So, I can't see it by no other definition, but an organization.
I am not attending, but looking at the schedule, I am interested in Bro. Booker's address entitled, "What the Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship Is Not." It would seem that would be a short address.
The question is whether the UPCI will take a stance (which I think they have with the release of KH's letter) that truly recognizes this as an organization formation.
Still lots of questions and hypothesis that won't be answered until the end of this month.
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I thought this was already spoken about. The initial feeling was that the Tulsa meeting would be the place that a fellowship would be created. Then the word was that there would be dual licensing. Fellowship cards for those that wished to stay UPC, and licenses for those that wanted more and were leaving UPC. The word now is that this is a full fledged Organization with non-payed positions. The Tulsa meeting is to introduce the Org to potential members, with another meeting to be held later for the actual signing up of those that wish to join. Thus, the way I understand it right now, Tulsa is just an detailed info meeting of what the WPF is offering.
I thought this was already spoken about. The initial feeling was that the Tulsa meeting would be the place that a fellowship would be created. Then the word was that there would be dual licensing. Fellowship cards for those that wished to stay UPC, and licenses for those that wanted more and were leaving UPC. The word now is that this is a full fledged Organization with non-payed positions. The Tulsa meeting is to introduce the Org to potential members, with another meeting to be held later for the actual signing up of those that wish to join. Thus, the way I understand it right now, Tulsa is just an detailed info meeting of what the WPF is offering.
That is the way I understood it at its initial face value, as well. I have no difference with you there. But since they have updated the site and looking at the schedule that ends Friday morning with Membership on the agenda, it would seem that membership might be available right away. Of course, I may be taking what it released on their website at too much of a face value. As I said, I don't think a lot of these questions will be answered until we hear exactly what happens at Tulsa.
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That is the way I understood it at its initial face value, as well. I have no difference with you there. But since they have updated the site and looking at the schedule that ends Friday morning with Membership on the agenda, it would seem that membership might be available right away. Of course, I may be taking what it released on their website at too much of a face value. As I said, I don't think a lot of these questions will be answered until we hear exactly what happens at Tulsa.
i would say that very likely you are right, and there will be an open enrollment for ministers to join at the end of the Tulsa Meeting.
Is anyone going to sneak a video camera into Tulsa?
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