UPC church distributes prayer altars: Good idea or future garage sale piece?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by PastorD

D...I like ya, but you and Phil may need the same break. Be a pastor for a day and try to find a way to make a difference in your community. The man had an original idea....HE IS NOT SELLING THE ALTARS, but for some reason some want to keep floating that idea. Please . . .

Too many questions.

Pastor D,

I never said it was a fundraiser ... I think I asked Neck if he thought it was ... and he said yes.

Moreover, I suggested in a later post that perhaps it should not be given out for free ... because folks don't value free stuff.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Esther

Why do you have a fixation with the Catholics?

No one said anything about rosary beads nor selling anointed prayer cloths. Which I personally don't think you can sell an "anointed" prayer cloth. You might sell a cloth prayed over, but expecting God to anoint a cloth for your profit? I don't think so.

I think you've based my fixation on the events of the last week ... this is unrelated.

Rosary beads are used by many groups and denominations, including Muslims ... I am sorry if you've equated that to a slam ...

You made a general statement ... and I simply "nit-picked" as to it's validity by giving examples to the extreme.

The sensitivities are a very high ... I'm gonna walk.

[ContenderForTheFaith]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

I wonder. It would not surprise me...

Your satire surprises me..........I would think this would be a positive thing, encouraging your members to put "prayer" as a top priority in 2008. Why can't we see the "good" instead of "suspecting" the worst of people?

[Barb]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I use my shower, my car, my desk at work - - even been known to pray in the restroom of a court house! Anywhere works - - -ain't it beautiful!!!!!

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I think you've based my fixation on the events of the last week ... this is unrelated.

Rosary beads are used by many groups and denominations, including Muslims ... I am sorry if you've equated that to a slam ...

You made a general statement ... and I simply "nit-picked" as to it's validity by giving examples to the extreme.

The sensitivities are a very high ... I'm gonna walk.

Now who's being sensitive?!

Daniel, some here today are merely holding your posts to the same fire you hold others to.

If that offends you, perhaps you will understand how others feel.

You know full well the first notion that comes to people's minds when rosary beads are mentioned, and it is not Muslims, yet you used that example in connection with an elder encouraging the congregation to set up an altar in their homes.

Now what kind of response did you think you would get?!

It matters not to me how many are left in a corner to gain dust...if only one is used, it is worth the effort.

Sacred furniture?! Oh please, Daniel...how many Apsotolics do you know who would make a piece of a wood sacred object?!

Bottom line: the article was a good one and should have been posted here...the problem is...well you know the problem.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Barb

Now who's being sensitive?!

Daniel, some here today are merely holding your posts to the same fire you hold others to.

If that offends you, perhaps you will understand how others feel.

You know full well the first notion that comes to people's minds when rosary beads are mentioned, and it is not Muslims, yet you used that example in connection with an elder encouraging the congregation to set up an altar in their homes.

Now what kind of response did you think you would get?!

It matters not to me how many are left in a corner to gain dust...if only one is used, it is worth the effort.

Sacred furniture?! Oh please, Daniel...how many Apsotolics do you know who would make a piece of a wood sacred object?!

Bottom line: the article was a good one and should have been posted here...the problem is...well you know the problem.

And I agreed that if one is used it's worth the effort ... see my reply to Elder Epley.

My examples were to test the generalization Esther had made ... please don't make any other connections ... especially w/ the noble efforts of this pastor.

I could've used other relics to make my point but something tells me it would be received in the same manner ...

Hold me to the fire ... fine. Allow me the same courtesy. Thanks.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

And I agreed that if one is used it's worth the effort ... see my reply to Elder Epley.

My examples were to test the generalization Esther had made ... please don't make any other connections ... especially w/ the noble efforts of this pastor.

I could've used other relics to make my point but something tells me it would be received in the same manner ...

Hold me to the fire ... fine. Allow me the same courtesy. Thanks.

Absolutely, Daniel...

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

The sensitivities are a very high ... I'm gonna walk.

Danny-boy if you are talking about taking a stroll down a plank and you need someone to tie your hands, just let me know.

Actually I think the prayer altar is a great idea. I have been looking for a short antique pew I can refurbish for a little prayer altar for my family. I have been looking for a long time with little success...I would also use it to sit on and tie my shoes, etc.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

If you are talking about taking a stroll down a plank and you need someone to tie your hands, just let me know.

Actually I think the prayer altar is a great idea. I have been looking for a short antique pew I can refurbish for a little prayer altar for my family. I have been looking for a long time with little success...I would also use it to sit on and tie my shoes, etc.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Barb

What? I wouldn't dedicate it as a place of prayer only, just for the memories, for my daughter to know that Prayer begins in the home, and that prayer and time needs to be dedicated not inanimate stuff. You pray at home right? Do you use the room or the closet you pray in for anything else?