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Old 07-18-2018, 09:51 AM
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Re: Uncut Hair and the Nazirite Vow for Women

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g2619. κατακαλύπτω katakalyptō; from 2596 and 2572; to cover wholly, i. e. veil:— cover, hide.
AV (3)- cover 3;
to cover up to veil or cover one's self
Would the veil that is described in 1 Cor. 11 mean something that would cover the entirety of the head or do you think Paul was refering to a little hair piece scarf? Certainly a scarf would hardly go noticed, but if all the commandment in 1 Cor. 11 is just another "to do" to check off then that is fine. I think that the commandments of God has more weight then that and have purpose.

Long hair of course is more natural on a woman than a man. Women who cut their hair still value it enough that they ussually leave a significant amount for them to fix. Women seem to have a natural inclination to want to be beautiful and hair is truly one of the top things on her beauty lists. Men on the other hand are fine to get it buzzed because most don't care as much, but are more concerned with convenience.

I see where nature teaches it is a shame for a woman to have short hair and a man to have long.

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Old 07-18-2018, 10:09 AM
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Re: Uncut Hair and the Nazirite Vow for Women

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I heard that this is best translated or understood in the sense of:
"But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: therefore her hair is given her to be wrapped up."
And this is why historically Christian women have always covered their heads for worship gatherings since the earliest days of the church, and is even still practiced today in the much older Christian traditions.
whether its wrapped up or covered, still the hair is given for that purpose.
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Old 07-18-2018, 10:25 AM
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Oh my god Becky look at her b...…...hair it is sooo long......
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Old 07-18-2018, 10:27 AM
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whether its wrapped up or covered, still the hair is given for that purpose.
I think you're missing the nuance.
I Corinthians 11:14-15
14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
In other words, nature gave her hair for a covering, indicating that she must be covered. And so both attire and nature should agree.

Her hair was given to her "for a covering" or "for a wrap around veil"... not, "to be a covering" or "to be a wrap around veil".

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Old 07-18-2018, 10:41 AM
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Re: Uncut Hair and the Nazirite Vow for Women

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Would the veil that is described in 1 Cor. 11 mean something that would cover the entirety of the head or do you think Paul was refering to a little hair piece scarf? Certainly a scarf would hardly go noticed, but if all the commandment in 1 Cor. 11 is just another "to do" to check off then that is fine. I think that the commandments of God has more weight then that and have purpose.

Long hair of course is more natural on a woman than a man. Women who cut their hair still value it enough that they ussually leave a significant amount for them to fix. Women seem to have a natural inclination to want to be beautiful and hair is truly one of the top things on her beauty lists. Men on the other hand are fine to get it buzzed because most don't care as much, but are more concerned with convenience.

I see where nature teaches it is a shame for a woman to have short hair and a man to have long.
you mentioned that women you knew were turned off by wearing head coverings. I think women can wear a head covering, have long uncut hair, ect. and still be attractive.

even the bible comments on women being attractive:

Genesis 6:2
that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose.

Deuteronomy 21:10-13
"When you go out to battle against your enemies, and the LORD your God delivers them into your hands and you take them away captive, and see among the captives a beautiful woman, and have a desire for her and would take her as a wife for yourself, then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head and trim her nails.

Genesis 12:11
It came about when he came near to Egypt, that he said to Sarai his wife, "See now, I know that you are a beautiful woman;

Genesis 24:15-16
Before he had finished speaking, behold, Rebekah who was born to Bethuel the son of Milcah, the wife of Abraham's brother Nahor, came out with her jar on her shoulder. The girl was very beautiful, a virgin, and no man had had relations with her; and she went down to the spring and filled her jar and came up.

Genesis 29:17
And Leah's eyes were weak, but Rachel was beautiful of form and face.

Job 42:15
In all the land no women were found so fair as Job's daughters; and their father gave them inheritance among their brothers.

1 Samuel 25:3
(now the man's name was Nabal, and his wife's name was Abigail And the woman was intelligent and beautiful in appearance, but the man was harsh and evil in his dealings, and he was a Calebite),

2 Samuel 11:2-3
Now when evening came David arose from his bed and walked around on the roof of the king's house, and from the roof he saw a woman bathing; and the woman was very beautiful in appearance. So David sent and inquired about the woman. And one said, "Is this not Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite?"

2 Samuel 13:1
Now it was after this that Absalom the son of David had a beautiful sister whose name was Tamar, and Amnon the son of David loved her.

Esther 1:11
to bring Queen Vashti before the king with her royal crown in order to display her beauty to the people and the princes, for she was beautiful.

Esther 2:7
He was bringing up Hadassah, that is Esther, his uncle's daughter, for she had no father or mother. Now the young lady was beautiful of form and face, and when her father and her mother died, Mordecai took her as his own daughter.

1 Kings 1:3-4
So they searched for a beautiful girl throughout all the territory of Israel, and found Abishag the Shunammite, and brought her to the king. The girl was very beautiful; and she became the king's nurse and served him, but the king did not cohabit with her
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The only people I have ever found who are literally AGAINST head coverings, or long hair, are either people who literally are against being a Christian of any kind, or else professing Christians who almost always take the view "I don't care what it says, I just don't feel convicted about that and I'm going to live how I want anyway, that was a quaint old custom for back then and is not obligatory on us today" etc.
Or people who have been taught that it is "not" a heaven or hell issue.
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